Transponder Design
#347
Tech Regular
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 358
I think there's no 'official' way to get one, you can make your own starting from the schematics that you can find in the thread. The difficult part is to program the PIC (or other microcontroller used) with the correct program. I think that through the posts you get enough info to write one, or Howard might be distribuiting his program that work with his decoder (no Mylaps compatibility).
The transponder can be prototyped quite easily as shown in the images, I'm about to test a new 8 pin PIC that should be able to do everything with just 1 chip.
The transponder can be prototyped quite easily as shown in the images, I'm about to test a new 8 pin PIC that should be able to do everything with just 1 chip.
#349
Tech Rookie
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 1
Hi everybody,
first of all I have to say thanks for such a great threat you did here! Amacing how many people work so hard one this project.
I´m really interessed to build also my own transponder, so I have some questions I could answer myself in this threat. Maybe some off you guys can help me with you experience.
I would like to use a transponder of a full size cross car. So the distance between the loop an the transponder will be anround 1 meter. In #332 I read that the distance is ambout 15 cm. Is there a way to improve the distance? What are the parameters to play with?
Is there a difference in using a coil induction instead of the onboard induction? In this case I could save some space and could chance the direction of the transponder to the ground (So the PCB not need to be perpendicular to the ground).
I´m already working at a transponder for a half year but I had a different approach because I could´t find the way professional transponders work till now
I was using the loop as an transmitter with an tone of 8 kHz and 24 V. With the transponder I´m able to detect this tone by FFT. When the transponder detect the loop it send it´s ID via a rf 433 MHz Module to the Timing PC. It is working ok for now but it´s kind of "I don´t know what I´m doing" approach.
Since I try to build the hole system, I don´t have to be compatible to other systems.
So I hope with a little help I can design a real transponder. Already thanks for the great support!
Edit: would it be possible to use hf transistors behind the uib and uic to use higher voltage to improve the distance?
first of all I have to say thanks for such a great threat you did here! Amacing how many people work so hard one this project.
I´m really interessed to build also my own transponder, so I have some questions I could answer myself in this threat. Maybe some off you guys can help me with you experience.
I would like to use a transponder of a full size cross car. So the distance between the loop an the transponder will be anround 1 meter. In #332 I read that the distance is ambout 15 cm. Is there a way to improve the distance? What are the parameters to play with?
Is there a difference in using a coil induction instead of the onboard induction? In this case I could save some space and could chance the direction of the transponder to the ground (So the PCB not need to be perpendicular to the ground).
I´m already working at a transponder for a half year but I had a different approach because I could´t find the way professional transponders work till now

I was using the loop as an transmitter with an tone of 8 kHz and 24 V. With the transponder I´m able to detect this tone by FFT. When the transponder detect the loop it send it´s ID via a rf 433 MHz Module to the Timing PC. It is working ok for now but it´s kind of "I don´t know what I´m doing" approach.
Since I try to build the hole system, I don´t have to be compatible to other systems.
So I hope with a little help I can design a real transponder. Already thanks for the great support!
Edit: would it be possible to use hf transistors behind the uib and uic to use higher voltage to improve the distance?
Last edited by mcschiess; 07-03-2017 at 11:22 AM.
#354
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 86
From: Sweden
I have started a rewrite of the code in the Arduino software with bugfixes and support for the extra status messages. I wanted to take the step towards more open source tools instead of the windows only avr studio.
Code will soon be ready for test: https://github.com/condac/openAST
#356
Tech Regular
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 261
From: London UK
The Cano Decoder will detect hybrid Tx (Harry) but not the RC4 dedicated Tx (Percy)
#357
Tech Rookie
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 12
From: Glastonbury, UK
Hey all,
I can generate all the required packets (main + 7 status) for your transponder ID. If you've got a DIY transponder and want to try full status packet support, send me your transponder ID along with proof of a recent donation to a children's charity of your choice (any amount, same as mv4wd asks for RCHourglass) and I'll send you the packets.
Heads up, this is experimental and untested against an actual MyLaps decoder so no guarantees yet.
I can generate all the required packets (main + 7 status) for your transponder ID. If you've got a DIY transponder and want to try full status packet support, send me your transponder ID along with proof of a recent donation to a children's charity of your choice (any amount, same as mv4wd asks for RCHourglass) and I'll send you the packets.
Heads up, this is experimental and untested against an actual MyLaps decoder so no guarantees yet.



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