The Havoc 1s did have a booster and only worked on 1s. The Kinetic 1s had no booster but did have the standard BEC in place so that you plugged a small lipo 2s into it and got the same output as if you were running a 2s battery on the standard kinetic. I'm not sure which method the Oval one used.

My bad, perfect one for stock here: GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (NOV1748). You still need the booster and glitch buster.

Looking for an awesome 1S ESC? This is all you need... (it does both 1S and 2S applications)

Viper VTX1
No booster needed.

The instructions for my Oval Spec say 1s LiPo only, so I've never tried anything else, and haven't looked inside to see if there is, indeed, a BEC present. The voltage limitation could also be due to to the MOSFET ratings; lower on-resistance parts also tend to have lower operating voltages.

Novak may be referring to the RPM selections for the dynamic timing. Unfortunately, the selections are for very low RPM; only one pair was high enough for 17.5. I asked Charlie about this, and he said that the selections were based on what oval racers had asked for, not necessarily what was correct. Oval guys seem to have a different idea of what works compared to road course guys.

You must be talking about Gavin Creado.

I had a discussion with him in private message about producing these 1s saddle packs again. So if you have some interest please give your input, these batts are made with quality cells and speedzone was the only company making them.

If we had some 1s saddle packs again we could run all our older nimh chassis with lipos, which would be awesome.

I just bought a SP12X and I'm having a hard time to find a lipo conversion, with 1s saddle packs the problem could be solved

Does anybody know what are the ESC that need no booster or added pack for a 1S application?

Viper VTX1
Hobbywing 1S
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I need your help to complete the list

My interest is for getting more people into 12th scale. In the long run it is cheaper just to buy a dedicated 1S car I reckon, but people keep seeing these really cheap T-bar cars on the net. They buy them, and then they ask me how to get ready to race.

On a completely unrelated matter, I've found a couple of websites that talk about front axle height as a tuning option. But they only say what effect it is supposed to have, not how it produces the effect, and I suspect that this may not apply to all pan car front ends. Can anyone explain to me how front axle height effects handling?

I'm in the same boat, that's exactly the reason why speedzone should sell them again.

There will always be pan cars designed for nimh. No other brand is making a 1s saddle lipo so they would own the market. To be honest I don't understand why they stopped the production. I'm in contact with drivers in Europe which would be interested too

1/12 drivers: I need your input
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-pan-cars.html

The reason production stoped was that there was little to no demand. Like it or not mainstream 1/12th has gone away from t-bar and link cars are all you will see going forward. The reality is that there is not a big enough and long term market for saddle lipos, yes thay would sell a few right away again but then the product would just sit and stale in inventory. I am all for t-bar cars as I really love the feel of a t-bar car much more than todays link cars, but that is just not the way todays market is. Imo racers have moved on to link cars and are not likely to move back, as another posted link cars can be found used for $100ish in the used market so there is little reason to buy a t-bar car anymore. Most t-bar cars are bought by afew newbies, or someone that just wants to "try" 1/12th. I would bet that in most cases these racers will run the car afew times and then shelve the car or try and resell.

You will notice in my sig line that I am sponsered by Speedzone, great company with quality products. And I have a couple of the original 1s saddle packs, thay work very well the only draw back was the deans connector, needed to have bullit connectors imo. I run my S120(same car as in the pic you linked from redRC) every now and again but like most of the 1/12th world I've moved on. I talked with Gavin back when he was deciding to first try and release these, my advice was that the window of opportunity for sales was small and closing rapidly then, its even smaller now. For all those that have older cars I hope that Gavin can find a way to fill the need again.

I see your point but there will always be a demand for these batteries. In the end it will depend on how many batteries have to be sold to make enough profit from it but if this number doesn't need to be crazy high I don't really see the risk. As I said to Gavin every single driver still having a Nimh pan car could be a potential buyer, considering there is no concurrence. It would allow drivers with less money to run the category too, which is always a good thing. A link car can be found for 100$, a t-bar can be found for three times less. It can make the difference.

Isn't a 1S saddle pack really just two small 1S packs but instead of running + to - to get 7.4 you just run + to + and - to - so that you get double the capacity but still have 3.7 volts.

That's it

But try to find a 1s hardcase with the good size..

I think he meant a 2S Saddle pack is just 2 1S batteries. So see if you can find any 2S saddle packs that are similar size to a 2 NIMH cells and wire them in parallel instead of serial.

LRP SXX V2
Orca VXI

But it looks like the SXX may be out of production...AE doesn't list it on their site any longer.