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Old 12-17-2012 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Driven other Sc10 trucks with the 13mm shocks and immediately experience the difference ...
Even have one truck set-up exactly the same as my truck cept it does not have the 16mm .

Can claim after weeks of testing & racing ...
This is very unlike your typical gargle. You actually tested both side by side instead of just announcing superiority.

I'm looking forward to the information, WC. (not sarcasm)
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Old 12-17-2012 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AE SC10 4X4
3.5 degrees of toe? m2c blocks? I am on page 1620 of this thread I only have 500 more pages to be caught up so forgive me as I have not heard of the M2C but think I read a post saying its the rear toe block like the 3.2 and 3.3?
Yeah the M2C rear toe block is adjustable and allows you to run 3.5 degrees of toe. It also lets you adjust anti squat. You can buy it from amain or most online sites. Btw glad you got your diff in hope it works well for you.
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Old 12-17-2012 | 02:35 AM
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It's a sad day for me cause I finally had to put my sc10 4x4 up for sale. I've been fighting it as long as possible but money is just too tight. If anyone is looking for a tricked out truck let me know...
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Old 12-17-2012 | 06:18 PM
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After reading though this thread, is there alot of problems with the SC10 4X4 or is it tuning issues. I was really considering getting one for x-mas but if I have to sink an ass load of money into it, I don't know.
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Old 12-17-2012 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
The 16mm BB shocks project is going great .

Driven other Sc10 trucks with the 13mm shocks and immediately experience the difference ...
Even have one truck set-up exactly the same as my truck cept it does not have the 16mm .


Feel I now can say to you guys with the up most certainty..

The 16mm shock set-up performs way better then the standard shock set-up.


Reasons

*more steering
*more traction
*better jumps & landings
*more stability
*smoother chassis roll on the sweeper & sharp turns...

Can claim after weeks of testing & racing ...
The 16mm shock is worth .3 to .4 sec per lap faster on average .

Most of all , They are easier to drive & more consistent....

WC,this mod interested me enough to ask you a few things
What type of track have you tested this 16mm setup on?
Indoor,Outdoor,big jumps,sm jumps,smooth or rough surface
Have you had a few other drivers that are familiar with the
Sc10 4x4 try this mod to see what they think?
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Old 12-17-2012 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rippen
After reading though this thread, is there alot of problems with the SC10 4X4 or is it tuning issues. I was really considering getting one for x-mas but if I have to sink an ass load of money into it, I don't know.
You'll spend an ass load on the scte too. Just different places and different reasons.

Check out one of the 1/8 conversion SCT's (rapture, tekno, soon Mugen, sooner or later X-ray), starting to be sold NIB... maybe that's more what your looking for.

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Old 12-17-2012 | 07:39 PM
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dont forget serpent
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Old 12-17-2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by rippen
After reading though this thread, is there alot of problems with the SC10 4X4 or is it tuning issues. I was really considering getting one for x-mas but if I have to sink an ass load of money into it, I don't know.
Check out the new tekno 410 SCT. I run only AE for now but this tekno truck may be a game changer
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Old 12-18-2012 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by rippen
After reading though this thread, is there alot of problems with the SC10 4X4 or is it tuning issues. I was really considering getting one for x-mas but if I have to sink an ass load of money into it, I don't know.
You'll hear a variety of positions on this including those that feel the vehicle needs nothing and is the greatest thing since slice bread. You have to sort through that and believe what you want to believe. The way I personally look at it is if you keep getting different people in different areas reportin similar issues on similar conditions, they aren't all just teaming up and lying.

In my personal opinion, the first thing you should identify with the SC10 4x4 is what conditions do you plan to run it in.

It excels at indoor 1/10 oriented conditions, but in stock form is not as good on loose big jump conditions like found on 1/8 sized tracks like its competitor, the losi SCTE, which, considering the platform for the losi SCTE has a variety described by losi itself as a 1/8 buggy, not surprised.

In those situations, it benefits from a variety of parts. You can do some of the mods on the cheap versus others and get very good results.

It also has interesting in air handling characteristics that depending on where you are coming from RC wise, you may need to adjust your jumping "style" when using the vehicle. I find that for me with how my vehicle is setup, I prefer to punch it on the face of the jump. This usually has it jump for me at least slightly nose up which during flight it either levels off mid air then slightly nose down, or, if its still up, I can pin the brake to drop the front end. I can't however save it if its coming off nose down, it's pretty much is a lost cause at that point. Before with a lot of vehicles, I would just run it up over the jump and could control it mid air with throttle or brake inputs.

Durability wise, Its a highly durable truck in my opinion after you do the diff shim mod. I have been quite happy with that aspect of the vehicle. I beat it up pretty good last night on an indoor area that had a massive jump landing on a very thin carpet over concrete in a small shopping mall. Pretty much clearing the landing jump repeatedly and nothing broke in comparison to all the buggies in attendance for this bash fest. Nose dives, tail landing, upside down landings that beat the body up hard and a couple of jumps into the landing area as well as several into a trash can in from of a pillar, hitting the pillar lol, still all good.

As a side note, the RC Shox center diff provided extreme punch as well, with little run up could punch over the large jump expanse, just for those curious if the center diff can be used on carpet / high traction conditions. 8 pins right now, excellent performance.

M2C block setting of 2.75 degrees toe in gave quick direction changes that I liked on the high traction surface while still being controllable all around the track. I may try the next heaviest sway bar on the rear and see how it goes, but the truck feels pretty much dialed right now.
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Old 12-18-2012 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Cain
You'll hear a variety of positions on this including those that feel the vehicle needs nothing and is the greatest thing since slice bread. You have to sort through that and believe what you want to believe. The way I personally look at it is if you keep getting different people .........................

As a side note, the RC Shox center diff provided extreme punch as well, with little run up could punch over the large jump expanse, just for those curious if the center diff can be used on carpet / high traction conditions. 8 pins right now, excellent performance.

M2C block setting of 2.75 degrees toe in gave quick direction changes that I liked on the high traction surface while still being controllable all around the track. I may try the next heaviest sway bar on the rear and see how it goes, but the truck feels pretty much dialed right now.
Cain do you have a setup sheet for your truck? I would like to check it out.
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Old 12-18-2012 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blusporttrac
Cain do you have a setup sheet for your truck? I would like to check it out.
shoot me a pm with your email address and I'll see about getting that out to you tonight. What I have currently saved I need to update as I changed the ball stud heights front and rear due to the traction rolling I saw initially a few weeks ago.

I may try playing with the rear camber link length combined with the stock setting to see how it performs in comparison to my 2.75 toe setting. Basically, stock toe with shorter rear camber link, probably inside position on the rear hub carrier versus current middle position on carrier with my 2.75 toe in setting.
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Old 12-18-2012 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Chernobyl23
WC,this mod interested me enough to ask you a few things
What type of track have you tested this 16mm setup on?
Indoor,Outdoor,big jumps,sm jumps,smooth or rough surface
Have you had a few other drivers that are familiar with the
Sc10 4x4 try this mod to see what they think?
posted most of the details already just scan back .




Only ran the truck with the 16mm at Trcr .
Later the next few weeks will be going other tracks in the area ...


I can insure you however the set-up performs a lot better than the 13mm shocks with Ae yellow springs ....


The truck can be drop tested 2 ft and no slap at all ....

13mm shock will slap the table hard with the same test height.....


Bonus from 16mm
extra steering and traction...

Way more stable in the turns , roll overs almost eliminated ..


Take the leap !!!!
The mod is a bit expensive , but worth all ...

Just like the team steering rack , chassis brace , VTS slipper & 8mm rear C mod...

Those parts make a huge improvement in performance.
We can now add the 16mm shock mod to that list ...
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Old 12-18-2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
posted most of the details already just scan back .




Only ran the truck with the 16mm at Trcr .
Later the next few weeks will be going other tracks in the area ...


I can insure you however the set-up performs a lot better than the 13mm shocks with Ae yellow springs ....


The truck can be drop tested 2 ft and no slap at all ....

13mm shock will slap the table hard with the same test height.....


Bonus from 16mm
extra steering and traction...

Way more stable in the turns , roll overs almost eliminated ..


Take the leap !!!!
The mod is a bit expensive , but worth all ...

Just like the team steering rack , chassis brace , VTS slipper & 8mm rear C mod...

Those parts make a huge improvement in performance.
We can now add the 16mm shock mod to that list ...
Who's 16mm shocks are you using? Springs..etc
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Old 12-18-2012 | 09:58 AM
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Almost at the point where I will have one of Ae's better Ae drivers (Scott Brown) test drive my truck .

Have to wait a while, month or more till his next event.
This is when Scott will start practicing & driving his Sc10 4x4 and then we can compared my truck to his.....

Note :
Scott has been with this mod from the start , has offered a great deal of help with the springs , oil , piston changes & decisions ..

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Old 12-18-2012 | 10:32 AM
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Cherry,will AE 8th scale buggy shocks work?
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