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Old 11-08-2012 | 06:56 PM
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Thanks for all the responses. Still thinking about it at this point.
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Old 11-08-2012 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
What ESC are you using?

Also, what settings on the ESC?

Where are you topping out down the longest straight?

After your rebuild, how "tight" was everything in comparison to before?
Running a Mamba Max Pro, smart-sense, timing on the can as it came out of the box. No punch control or throttle expo.

Longest straight includes a "ski jump" that takes up most of what is already a short, MAYBE 50' straight. Its a small indoor track

No tighter than it was before the rebuild, new belt which has stretched a bit but is no tight, truck rolls as expected with the pinion removed.

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 11-08-2012 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by indybobb
I know the actual theory of raising the links, but for some reason it has the stated effect for me of reducing the traction rolling on high grip carpet, the first to do this mod was Brian Kinwald on a High Grip track.

http://www.teamassociated.com/pdf/ca...d_Standard.pdf
If you have the time indybobb, would you be willing to try the raised inner ball stud without the 8mm riser? Curious to see what you notice in performance difference, if any as far as the traction rolling goes.

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Running a Mamba Max Pro, smart-sense, timing on the can as it came out of the box. No punch control or throttle expo.

Longest straight includes a "ski jump" that takes up most of what is already a short, MAYBE 50' straight. Its a small indoor track

No tighter than it was before the rebuild, new belt which has stretched a bit but is no tight, truck rolls as expected with the pinion removed.

Thanks for any advice.

On the MMP, going off of memory here so please forgive if this is common knowledge, but do you have any timing at all on the ESC? If so, try lowest setting.

that size of track sounds like the one I am going to run on, 50 x 50. Your gearing doesn't sound bad personally.

From what others have reported, it seems that the Pro4's run hotter with the MMP. Not sure why but when people go from the MMPs to the RX8s they seem to all report temp drops.
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Old 11-08-2012 | 09:33 PM
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Cain,watched um put VTS on ,even drove it to help him out.
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Shitzami alert !

Practicing @ B Town right now

Sc10 4x4 = DAILED
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Old 11-08-2012 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sneako
I've visited this thread many times and it seems that this kit only works well after lots of time and money.

I run at a track but don't race (TRCR). I have my SC10 and B4 set up pretty well and my SLASH 4x4 gets around without any problems after a little tuning (springs, oil and tires make a big difference). Last time I was at the track I just couldn't get over how quiet the SC10 is compared to any other 4x4 SC!

So, will this truck be a complete let down if I only do minimal tuning? Again, I run at a track, I don't race there. I don't know if I would notice adding a few millimeters of this to that and so on.

I want to build the FT kit and do the same as I have for my other kits - basic set up stuff. Oh, and no saddle packs - I have enough hard case Lipos. I may even get the original kit and pick up the upgrade package.

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Hi mate, I used to run a Nexx10SC and ive resently purchased the standard SC10 4x4 Kit and out of the box i was a little unhappy, as the sc10 4x4 was all over the place and very tail happy compared to my Nexx10sc, But ive just fitted up the FT Kit and a set of swaybars (still running a stick pack) and now the SC10 4x4 is great
Althought the sc10 4x4 is a little bit harder to work on compared to my Nexx10sc im still very happy with my purchase/upgrade and im sure the truck will only get better with little more fine tuning
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Old 11-08-2012 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Rear
*30w AE oil, 1.6 piston
*yellow spring
*blue bar
*shock position = middle on tower & outside on arm.
*7mm external limiter
*8mm mod , camber position = inside on tower & 2nd hole outside on hub
*rear bub in the middle on the arm.

Ft
*35w Ae oil
*1.6 piston
*yellow spring
*yellow bar
*shock position = middle on tower & outside on arm
*camber position = outside on tower ( 1m spacer)
*7mm external limiter

24mm ride height


*saddle packs, JConcept gold Pressure Points tires....
1.6 pistons? Is this a typo?
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Old 11-08-2012 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cody227
I recently broke the driveshaft that goes through the slipper xD (using the old slipper). It broke where the washer beetween spring and nut is. What could be the reason for breaking it and how can i prevent it next time?
I've bent mine but never broke it. I think it is a little soft and if you aren't careful it can be bent and fatigued when tightening the slipper.
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Old 11-09-2012 | 05:26 AM
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[QUOTE=Cain;11421445]If you have the time indybobb, would you be willing to try the raised inner ball stud without the 8mm riser? Curious to see what you notice in performance difference, if any as far as the traction rolling goes.




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I'll give it a shot during practice at our next event, but wont be until December 2, the track is put together (with different layouts) for the events every other month.

By the way, I am not saying anyone is wrong, I'm just stating my personal feeling with the truck on my track. I will give the raised studs without the c-hub a try.

I'm running the truck on a dirt track for the first time this sunday, so I'll start with the MOD and then try without it to see,, I'll have the Max Flurer setup sheet ready if I don't like the feel with the 8mm MOD on.
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Old 11-09-2012 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by roland5color
On any given day any of the top brands can win a race. My prefernce just happens to be the SC10 4x4.
I have run my SC104x4 for 2 seasons now with minimal upgrades. I've replaced the suspension arms once, rebuilt the diffs a few times and played with shimming to remove some of the extra play/wobble, and upgraded to Garodiscs in the slipper. With those small extras, the truck is more than fun to drive, and has been very reliable.

If you're good at casing jumps, I would suggest a chassis brace. Beyond that, not much else is required to have fun with the truck.

To be competitve racing (which I know you mentioned, you RUN on a track, but do not RACE on a track) the centre diff is where my next upgrade money is going....

And even with that, all the upgrades I mentioned you can probably get for under $40 for having fun or $80 for racing. $17 for the Garos or $60 for the cdiff, $15 for a brace, and $5 for proper washers to use in the diff. (Don't need garodiscs if you get the Cdiff.)

Again, just my opinion.....even though I know *COUGH* SOMEONE *COUGH WC* will say you don't need that stuff.

$5 for proper shims will save wear and tear on your diff and CVDS
$15 will help protect your chassis from bending and your belt from stretching
$17 will mean that you don't have to take your slipper pads out after every battery pack and sand the glaze off of them so that they will be ok for the next run.
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Old 11-09-2012 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Cain,watched um put VTS on ,even drove it to help him out.
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Shitzami alert !
Sc10 4x4 = DAILED
Waverly Hills Sanatorium = DIALED
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Old 11-09-2012 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sugs
1.6 pistons? Is this a typo?
The trend right now is to run 2 hole 1.5 to 1.7hole in just about everything. I will have some available in a few weeks for the public. It works very well especially on the high grip situations. The ones i am testing are a bit different but are still single stage.
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Old 11-09-2012 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by indybobb
I'll give it a shot during practice at our next event, but wont be until December 2, the track is put together (with different layouts) for the events every other month.

By the way, I am not saying anyone is wrong, I'm just stating my personal feeling with the truck on my track. I will give the raised studs without the c-hub a try.

I'm running the truck on a dirt track for the first time this sunday, so I'll start with the MOD and then try without it to see,, I'll have the Max Flurer setup sheet ready if I don't like the feel with the 8mm MOD on.
Great and no worries about saying anyone is wrong, or not wrong, etc. I know you and others may get that impression when reading the thread on face value, but to clarify I am wanting to hear what others are experiencing. We all pitch in on that, and we can keep the truck moving forward.

Originally Posted by waggaclint
Hi mate, I used to run a Nexx10SC and ive resently purchased the standard SC10 4x4 Kit and out of the box i was a little unhappy, as the sc10 4x4 was all over the place and very tail happy compared to my Nexx10sc, But ive just fitted up the FT Kit and a set of swaybars (still running a stick pack) and now the SC10 4x4 is great
Althought the sc10 4x4 is a little bit harder to work on compared to my Nexx10sc im still very happy with my purchase/upgrade and im sure the truck will only get better with little more fine tuning
its a good truck, very durable as far as suspension components go from breakage, just needs the right setup on it for your conditions and some stuff added to it depending on what version you have. A lot of people find benefit to using a variety of aftermarket parts in a variety of conditions. The Exotek chassis for one, the RC Shox Center Diff is another.


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Cain,watched um put VTS on ,even drove it to help him out.
O-man !
yeah, he put it on ...

But ...

I said you should talk to him so you can actually know what was the issue ...
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Old 11-09-2012 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sugs
I've bent mine but never broke it. I think it is a little soft and if you aren't careful it can be bent and fatigued when tightening the slipper.
What do u mean with "if you aren't careful"? How can i prevent it from breaking again?
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Old 11-09-2012 | 07:21 AM
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if I understanding you correctly, you broke it on the threaded portion?
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Old 11-09-2012 | 07:34 AM
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Oh,, a point that I'm not sure if it has been said or discussed before, for high bite, set your steering endpoints, I'm running at around 70% and can still out corner anything out there.
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