Absolutely nothing. That is why I have one. I was just saying it isn't the car.

The only reason AE needs to come out with a new car is that they will loose customers. All us goons like to at least try the newest, latest and greatest. You will get folks leaving AE to try these other cars.

It is just the hobby and I think people are always looking for something new. If AE doesn't give them something new then they leave to try something else. Now they may keep coming back to AE but they will at least go and try it.

B5 talk....

Did anyone stop and think that AE could come out with a B5 that was geared to RTR bashers and not racers? What would you do if the race team continued running B4.1s and not a new B5 after a B5 was released? RTR bashers pay the bill, not racing.

so they sell more kits, lol. customers sell their car, get the new shiny, then buy a new AE car, thus sales go up.

honestly, looking at my b4, the only things that could be improved would be going to all metric hardware, a better slipper (something like the triad), a 2 stage shock design of some sort, and wheel hexes. I honestly wouldn't mind if AE just took all that, plus the new BBs and called it a b5. It wouldn't be markedly different, but would be a new car. It's not like there was a huge difference between the b2 and b3.

Good idea, PFKAOG

+1 aside from the 2 stage pistons, imo they are junk. but the rest is good.

really? I had 2 stage pistons on my 4x4 and really liked what they did for it. It really helped on the rough/blown out tracks.

All I was implying is that if AE can sell a rubber tire spec TC and a foam tire spec TC which includes different parts, why can't they give us a couple tire options for Factory Team offroad kits? It's literally 2 bags and mark the box with a check mark noting the model. Expect more as a consumer guys. That's how companies stand out in the crowd. I'm an aerospace machinist and we machine custom parts for private aircraft, and we welcome good ideas that would help us sell more product or even sell the same amount with more satisfied customers. The B4 was released in 2003. Yes it's still a great platform that wins and has a great design, but it's not like AE would take a step backwards with the B5. Go look at your buggy and take a mental more of how many parts are not OEM or even AE. I'm sure a lot of upgrades are not needed or just preference, but then look at people with 22's and 210's, RB5's, they are a lot closer to OEM and aren't running parts from other chassis manufacturers on them.

2 stage pistons have existed for at least a decade. But no one has ever really run them. Some people say they work and many other say meh, they are a pain to tune. The major car builders have never even offered them as an option and the pro's dont appear to use them or think much of them. I am sure they are situational, but I first saw them from parma in the late 80's and it never really stuck. maybe MIP will get it right this time. but I dont think it should be the baseline. maybe an option part at best.

I only added hexes and bb springs to mine. And put grub screws in the rear hubs to remove the play. the rest is bones stock. the shocks are being fixed. they made a hex conversion and created oem rims as an option.

Even if the pro's start driving a B5 we will not be able to buy one until 2014... so talk all you want your b4.1 has a lot of miles left to go.

you cant compare that...it isnt just the tires. When the TC5 was released there was a market for a rubber and a foam spec tc, it wasnt all tires. It was the thickness of the chassis/design of the upper deck, it was the stiffness of the arms. When the TC6 was released the market for a foam spec tc had declined and therefore it was primarily targeted more toward rubber tire racing (majority of races now are done with rubber tires including on carpet). There isnt a market for two different b4's, your always going to have the guy that says that holeshots and suburbs dont work on my track, maybe they use barcodes, or slicks, or a different compund all together. it would be easier for them to just include rims and let the consumer pick the tire that suits their track. back when the original b4 was first released how many inddor tracks where there that used some gold or mc compound bk style tire? very few, nearly everybody ran m3 holeshots on a weekly basis.

They'd need new front/rear shock towers. While they're at that, they should also add a 4th hole to the rear tower.

I'm not sure on the 2-stage pistons. Just switching from the yellow pads to garolite, like when they changed from white to yellow, would be all they need in the slipper region with V2 slippers.

Metric hardware, wheel hexes, longer-lasting/more-resilient shocks, and decent springs would all be great upgrades. A re-tooling to produce the chassis without all the seams and adding the SC10FT kit chassis reinforcement in the front would be really nice touches...

So how come Tebo can't win after he got a new RB 5 ?

Was it the car , driver or both that failed?


Takes two , a fast driver & great car to be a champ & not a bit less ...

Let's see... Wheels, tires, body, wing, bellcranks, spur gear, pinion, motor screws/washers, velcro, and wheel pins are not AE. Not included with the kit, but AE: Slipper hubs, C-towers, TiNi ballstuds, bling blue ballstud washers, and high-carbon parts.

Why would they? Not because their vehicle is better, but because most of it is incompatible. Also, 210s and RB5s are far too niche to have many aftermarket parts made for them. AE's platform has been around for almost a decade and they're probably the most common car out there, so it's not surprising that there are numerous aftermarket upgrades for them.

Switch back to your 1.2 Ae pistons they R are far better .....