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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Oasis
I was running 7k in the front and had sooooo much steering..went back to 20k....but I'm running on a small high traction track..what are you guys running with the RC Shox center diff as far as diff settings go..I'm building a FT for outdoors and I was told that the center diff works better for outdoor tracks..
I'm running 5 pins with 5k fluid front and rear. Works well for me outdoors. I also have the ft steering rack with links in the rear position.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:34 PM
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I just got my center diff up and running and I have to say that it is awesome! I put 7k up front and 5k in the rear with 4 pins and at first I had way too little steering.

After reading on here that the two grooved spacers for the thrust bearing are different I pulled everything apart and I did have it backwards, no big deal nothing was broken or anything so that was solved. Looking at my setup I couldnt get the nut far enough on so that they nylock would bite on the threads so I flipped the spacer on the end of the spring back over and I can still get full compression of the spring so I am not sure why everyone says to flip that spacer. With the spring fully compressed the diff wasnt really diffing so I backed it out probably 1-2 full turns and then the diff starting acting right, not sure if there is a precise adjustment on where you want it but I just did it until it seemed about right.

Back on the track this afternoon and it was way better, still want a little more turn in and off power steering so I may go to 5k in the front also. Overall the truck is a joy to drive now and although my fast lap is probably not that much faster vs. the VTS my average lap has to be seconds faster. The truck is planted and predictable now, worth every penny.

If you are on the fence about the upgrade just do it already, everything everyone says about it is true.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:40 PM
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So Saturday was my 2nd weekend out with my new ft kit.I took the win over the losi boys...i'm the only AE in the class...the win wasn't easy buy any means.I feel there is alt more left in the truck.

My setup is pretty much the stock set up.with the exception of a few changes.
= rear hub mod 5mm in side on link and 8mm on out side
= small rear sway bar
= rear shocks inside hole on tower
=3/2 toe block on rear.
= camber is at 0 all around and front toe is at 0 also

The truck is loose in the rear...I have to fight it just to keep it pointed the right way.the sweeper is almost impossible to take at any speed...and down the strait the truck is like its on ice...even on power half way down the strait the rear wants to pass the front end..

Any ideas on how to plant the rear of the truck? The track is a outdoor clay with decent grove...
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:44 PM
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V2 Center diff!
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdanielbro's
So Saturday was my 2nd weekend out with my new ft kit.I took the win over the losi boys...i'm the only AE in the class...the win wasn't easy buy any means.I feel there is alt more left in the truck.

My setup is pretty much the stock set up.with the exception of a few changes.
= rear hub mod 5mm in side on link and 8mm on out side
= small rear sway bar
= rear shocks inside hole on tower
=3/2 toe block on rear.
= camber is at 0 all around and front toe is at 0 also

The truck is loose in the rear...I have to fight it just to keep it pointed the right way.the sweeper is almost impossible to take at any speed...and down the strait the truck is like its on ice...even on power half way down the strait the rear wants to pass the front end..

Any ideas on how to plant the rear of the truck? The track is a outdoor clay with decent grove...
If you are running a short wheel base that will make the truck unstable in the straight.

If you can spare the cash the exotek chassis should help with planting the truck a bit.

Or just add weight to the truck.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdanielbro's
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The truck is loose in the rear...I have to fight it just to keep it pointed the right way.the sweeper is almost impossible to take at any speed...and down the strait the truck is like its on ice...even on power half way down the strait the rear wants to pass the front end..
This! My God, this!

I already saw the following post suggesting the center diff. It would also be great to hear other opinions that include keeping the VTS. Also (and I know I am asking a lot, now) it would be great if an experienced driver could explain a couple of possible causes for the slippery back end. If I have a better understanding of the problem, I would have a better chance of trying to come up with a solution or two on my own.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Oasis
Sure..and a few verses of Kumbaya wouldn't hurt either..
And the FUM..fu manual..and Marcus no big deal..I'm not new to RC either..I guess I expected better from you..being a respected member of the RC community and all..flaming someone like you did just seems beneath you..but it's done..In the past..

REALLY so the fact that you blasted my product on the forum had nothing to do with it huh? Gimme a break, my respect comes from not putting up with BS good or bad. I guess its not beneath you to bring it up in the first place huh?
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Old 05-28-2012 | 05:56 PM
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So Marcus do you run the sc10 anymore or do you really love that Durango?

I may pick up a Durango but a 4wd buggy one.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SMR 510RR
I just got my center diff up and running and I have to say that it is awesome! I put 7k up front and 5k in the rear with 4 pins and at first I had way too little steering.

After reading on here that the two grooved spacers for the thrust bearing are different I pulled everything apart and I did have it backwards, no big deal nothing was broken or anything so that was solved. Looking at my setup I couldnt get the nut far enough on so that they nylock would bite on the threads so I flipped the spacer on the end of the spring back over and I can still get full compression of the spring so I am not sure why everyone says to flip that spacer. With the spring fully compressed the diff wasnt really diffing so I backed it out probably 1-2 full turns and then the diff starting acting right, not sure if there is a precise adjustment on where you want it but I just did it until it seemed about right.

Back on the track this afternoon and it was way better, still want a little more turn in and off power steering so I may go to 5k in the front also. Overall the truck is a joy to drive now and although my fast lap is probably not that much faster vs. the VTS my average lap has to be seconds faster. The truck is planted and predictable now, worth every penny.

If you are on the fence about the upgrade just do it already, everything everyone says about it is true.

Going up in front diff fluid will give you less turn in so you dont want to do that, before doing anything drastic play with your front end alignment, try some toe out and lower the front Ride height a MM or two. With the V2 dif you dont need to flip the hat spacer, i fixed that issue with the thrust bearing assembly

Originally Posted by drolmaeye
This! My God, this!

I already saw the following post suggesting the center diff. It would also be great to hear other opinions that include keeping the VTS. Also (and I know I am asking a lot, now) it would be great if an experienced driver could explain a couple of possible causes for the slippery back end. If I have a better understanding of the problem, I would have a better chance of trying to come up with a solution or two on my own.
The rear end washing out is a characteristic of the slipper setup in general. You have full time 4wd with no way to really control front to rear bias. so basically you got all the HP to all four wheels all of the time. The Garodisc help this by allowing more controllable slip and is a massive improvement for the buck. The reason why everyone immediately suggest the center dif is that we have ALL been through what you are about to go through!! The majority of us have had this truck for a long time and you are relatively new to it, even those that hold out for as long as possible end up with the center dif! Its just a big game changer in the way the truck handles especially on a loose track. If you race on a high grip indoor track you can definitely get away with one of the three slipper setups but even then the V2 dif will still out perform any slipper setup, it just makes sense. With that being said i am working on a better dual disc setup with good results so far, all i am really doing is giving less surface area to the outside (rear) pad which allows more power transfer to the front. So in a nutshell if you plan on keeping the disc setup in my opinion you only need a dual garodisc setup and call it a day, save your money for the centerdif at a later time! hope this helps you out
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:06 PM
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iam a bad driver no track here and no car to get to one
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
I'm not sure what you dropped down to, but you will feel the difference. It really is noticeable. Drop to 10K and watch how much less push you get.
Jeff, went down to 20k. fyi. somehow, from my phone, that tidbit didn't make it. time to walk the dog and get back to the lab.

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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
So Marcus do you run the sc10 anymore or do you really love that Durango?

I may pick up a Durango but a 4wd buggy one.
Durango is on the shelf, It drives great and is really fast but something always breaks either the Damn front arms or the shock caps blow off!Once RPM makes some arms for it i will get back on track but no matter how fast it is a a DNF is a loss. That and the hardcore Rango guys are a little wishy washy, suggesting that i should drive the truck differently and corner weight balancing to keep from breaking it is ridiculous....
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:13 PM
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Do you have the v2 center diffs in stock? I have been giving it alt off thought from all the good reviews on here..A q A A
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mcdanielbro's
Do you have the v2 center diffs in stock? I have been giving it alt off thought from all the good reviews on here..A q A A

next batch will be ready this coming friday. i dont suggest waiting to order , they go really quick.
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Old 05-28-2012 | 06:18 PM
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I hate to say it but as of right now I am loving the VTS slipper setup with Marcus's garodisc's and exotek's inner hub. So far with it installed I've been able to make and clear jumps I couldn't do before with ease and sometimes over jumping....... I've tried the v2 diff and for some reason I am having issues with it, I think I may be overtightening it etc or I'm just plain installing it wrong so next time I feel like trying it out I will post pics of my install to get your guys opinions on whether or not it looks good or not........ For now though the vts slipper is staying on, and hopefully I'll my rx8 will be back from tekin before the big summer race in a few weeks here....
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