SC10 4x4 Thread
YES I thought I was the only one. I might have to buy the losi and run the AE on tight 10 scale tracks (definatly not selling my AE) and the losi on 8 scale. At my local track I am usally in the top 3 in the A every week until Motorama came along. I was in the E main. One spot away from the bump 
But atleast I did better with my 2wd SC, I placed 5th in the A.

But atleast I did better with my 2wd SC, I placed 5th in the A.

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Posts: 289
From: SoCal
So, I went racing yesterday, Had a blast, and made ALOT of new changes.First off, I PM'd Mantis for some help and he gave me some REALLY good tip's. I was having an issue with the rear of the truck coming around very easily ever since I went to the saddle setup. I knew the truck would be different but DAM, it was almost un-drivable.
So, for starters, he suggested that i go to 30k from 20k (was the strongest I could get at while I was at the track, that's how bad my truck was, I changed the diff fluid at the track) and 5k from the 10k I had. Also, told me to go with 0 front camber and -2 rear. I did all that except the rear diff because I couldn't get any 5k. In the first heat, the truck was tons better, but still not where I wanted it to be, so I went from yellow sway bar in the front to a blue one and from blue in the rear to a white. In the second heat, my truck was even better, and almost where I wanted it, but i decided another change was in order. At this point in time, my buddy "nmdesertracer" was going crazy with me doing so many chages to my truck. So, after the second heat race, I went to blue springs in the front (had yellows on before) and to whites (had blues) in the rear. Now my truck was feeling AWESOME!!! So, I ran a "3rd" heat (had them run the loop for 5 mins during intermission and I somehow broke a shock cartridge. So, I replaced it and put 35 wt instead of 32.5 in the fronts. During the main, The truck ran absolutely perfect!! Was running 2nd when I hit Lipo cut off at the 9:30 mark... Well, thought I would Post my new setup for you guys if anyone need's a good one for a large, bumpy, medium to low traction 1/8 scale track. Hope this help's some people. Any questions, feel free to ask.

So, for starters, he suggested that i go to 30k from 20k (was the strongest I could get at while I was at the track, that's how bad my truck was, I changed the diff fluid at the track) and 5k from the 10k I had. Also, told me to go with 0 front camber and -2 rear. I did all that except the rear diff because I couldn't get any 5k. In the first heat, the truck was tons better, but still not where I wanted it to be, so I went from yellow sway bar in the front to a blue one and from blue in the rear to a white. In the second heat, my truck was even better, and almost where I wanted it, but i decided another change was in order. At this point in time, my buddy "nmdesertracer" was going crazy with me doing so many chages to my truck. So, after the second heat race, I went to blue springs in the front (had yellows on before) and to whites (had blues) in the rear. Now my truck was feeling AWESOME!!! So, I ran a "3rd" heat (had them run the loop for 5 mins during intermission and I somehow broke a shock cartridge. So, I replaced it and put 35 wt instead of 32.5 in the fronts. During the main, The truck ran absolutely perfect!! Was running 2nd when I hit Lipo cut off at the 9:30 mark... Well, thought I would Post my new setup for you guys if anyone need's a good one for a large, bumpy, medium to low traction 1/8 scale track. Hope this help's some people. Any questions, feel free to ask.

Does anyone know the size of the thrust bearing from the rear diff part asc91090, I'm going to replace mine with one of these:
http://www.avidrc.com/product/13/thrust-bearings/
Replacing mine because I somehow broke the stock one....
http://www.avidrc.com/product/13/thrust-bearings/
Replacing mine because I somehow broke the stock one....
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I recall amongst the many pages of this thread Shaun mention his issues with warping arms on his truck. I always store my trucks on a stand not just to avoid any issues with the arms but to avoid flat spotting the foams in the tires (if I leave them on).
A few weeks ago I bent a right front CV during a race. I figured it was caused by the fact that I don't run the shock shaft boots and needed to run more shims on the shaft to prevent the CVs moving too far up and hitting the outdrives. I installed another 2mm shim for a total of 4mm plus the rubber bumper. I replaced the CV and moved the arm up through the stroke to make sure it was not hitting the outdrive. Last week after a race night I inspected the truck and sure enough, the same right front CV was bent again.
Checked the other CVs and they were fine. Upon further inspection, I noticed that the right front arm is totally tweeked. Not so much on the front side but you can really see it on the back side. Not just a little but quite a bit. This truck is only 1.5 months old and only raced/practiced twice a week. This should not be happending.
A few weeks ago I bent a right front CV during a race. I figured it was caused by the fact that I don't run the shock shaft boots and needed to run more shims on the shaft to prevent the CVs moving too far up and hitting the outdrives. I installed another 2mm shim for a total of 4mm plus the rubber bumper. I replaced the CV and moved the arm up through the stroke to make sure it was not hitting the outdrive. Last week after a race night I inspected the truck and sure enough, the same right front CV was bent again.
Checked the other CVs and they were fine. Upon further inspection, I noticed that the right front arm is totally tweeked. Not so much on the front side but you can really see it on the back side. Not just a little but quite a bit. This truck is only 1.5 months old and only raced/practiced twice a week. This should not be happending.
Last edited by F_ME; 02-20-2012 at 12:07 AM. Reason: typo
PRCR: Sunday, 19th of Feb.

This is me totally burning Cameron Kellogg and proceeding to lap him. /bullshit
My butt head of a buddy also included a "blooper reel". Or a "looks like a complete newb compilation" to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVw_Lb2Q5Ic
Center Diff
Dual stage pistons
5/5k diff oil
25/27.5 shock oil
blue/yellow spring
blue/yellow sway
Suburbs x4
Stick packs
3/3 block
Pro 4 4000
Pictures:
The 2wd Pit
The 4wd Pit
Air Time 01
Air Time 02
Thanks to Ryan, for bringing his kick ass Camera and gear, and taking time out from practicing himself to take them. (i'd break the Camera if I touched it.)

This is me totally burning Cameron Kellogg and proceeding to lap him. /bullshit
My butt head of a buddy also included a "blooper reel". Or a "looks like a complete newb compilation" to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVw_Lb2Q5Ic
Center Diff
Dual stage pistons
5/5k diff oil
25/27.5 shock oil
blue/yellow spring
blue/yellow sway
Suburbs x4
Stick packs
3/3 block
Pro 4 4000
Pictures:
The 2wd Pit
The 4wd Pit
Air Time 01
Air Time 02
Thanks to Ryan, for bringing his kick ass Camera and gear, and taking time out from practicing himself to take them. (i'd break the Camera if I touched it.)
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 289
From: SoCal
PRCR: Sunday, 19th of Feb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVw_Lb2Q5Ic
Thanks to Ryan, for bringing his kick ass Camera and gear, and taking time out from practicing himself to take them. (i'd break the Camera if I touched it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVw_Lb2Q5Ic
Thanks to Ryan, for bringing his kick ass Camera and gear, and taking time out from practicing himself to take them. (i'd break the Camera if I touched it.)
You got that wrong, Sal. I didn't do shit. 
At my home track
, I give my Radio to any kid showing interest. My Slash was like the village RC. (see what I did there?
)
I love BS'ing. At work, i'm the 'smart' one, at Meldrum, I'm usually the knowledgeable guy. At PRCR, Hell i'm nothin' there. Kinda a relaxing feeling not having people's expectations!
I'm tearing my truck down with full Bearing rebuild and the shock/slipper settings we discussed as I type... I'll be out there Sunday only because I need to see the difference before he changes the track and my "comparison" is void.

At my home track
, I give my Radio to any kid showing interest. My Slash was like the village RC. (see what I did there?
) I love BS'ing. At work, i'm the 'smart' one, at Meldrum, I'm usually the knowledgeable guy. At PRCR, Hell i'm nothin' there. Kinda a relaxing feeling not having people's expectations!

I'm tearing my truck down with full Bearing rebuild and the shock/slipper settings we discussed as I type... I'll be out there Sunday only because I need to see the difference before he changes the track and my "comparison" is void.
Anytime two or more racers get together and talk there is ALWAYS a give and take! Its just natural...everyone has their own unique perspective on things. Problems get solved from different "angles". This thread is a prime example.
Sal
Ok guys Motorama is finally over! It was a long weekend. The track was really loose and loomy while also being super super rutted up from the 8 scales. So the first practice, I went out and found out that I forgot to put one of the bearings in the rear tranny so my rear top shaft was wiggling and I ended up stripping a spur. So that ended my run with less than 1 lap. Once I fiquired out the promblem it took me hours to find another spur. Not one hobby shop had one, thank god a fellow racer had a spare or I would have been done for the whole weekend. So for the secound practice, it didnt really go any better. The track was 3 times worse and rutted then before my first practice run. I had no rear traction and the rear end constantly washed out, I also had to really "feather" the throttle to get around the track, while the losi's where full throttle everywhere even through the rough stuff. I switched to blue rear springs and to the 3-3 block and I gained my traction back. But by that time it was after 10:00 PM and I wasnt staying till 12:00 PM to get another practice run in. By the end of qualifying on Saturday I was about 30th out of 165 drivers. But I still couldnt "push" my truck hard enough like the losi's where to get into the bump up spot I needed to get into the next main today. There was two table tops about 5 feet apart. The losi's could hit the first table and clear the whole thing landing on the downside of the 2nd table. So the next lap I tryed it and was pretty unsuccessful, I was loosing time in that section but could not clear it for the life of me. I guess on big, rutted 8 scale tracks the losi does have an advantage on the AE. My truck was bouncing around through the rutted rough parts of the track when I tryed to push it even though I added 3 ounces of lead weight. The rear end still wanted to come around as well. I guess the center diff will help. 
As well as getting punted into pipes because the losi would come and plow me out of the way.
Just wanted to share my experience! Wasnt to bad of a day but not as I expected it to be.

As well as getting punted into pipes because the losi would come and plow me out of the way.

Just wanted to share my experience! Wasnt to bad of a day but not as I expected it to be.
Chad, the center dif and 2 stage would have solved alot of your handling issues especially the rear end looseness and bouncing around on the rough stuff. But i feel your pain, i have to go through this scenario every weekend, there are a few guys that should not be able to beat me and are breathing down my neck just because of two series of jumps, any other track and they are toast!
Okay, I need a little setup help. Right now my setup is the Ryan reedy race setup with 30wt oil in the rear and stick not saddle packs. I am suffering from on power understeer. I can enter the corner fine but when I apply throttle to exit the truck pushes a lot.



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