95LikesTekin RSX Thread
11-18-2015 | 05:08 PM
#961
Tech Master
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,213
From: Calgary, Alberta
Hey guys, I've searched several times and haven't found answers, so hoping someone here might know.
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu.
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different?
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution?
Thanks in advance for the help!
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu.
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different?
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution?
Thanks in advance for the help!
11-19-2015 | 08:36 AM
#962
Tech Initiate
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 27
hello you guys..
I have a dex410 with a tekin rsx and a speed passion 4,5T motor..
It fly`s
But last time I was out driving the soldering on the capasitor broke, "I am not the best with a soldering iron" so when I was finished driving I took off the body and was about to switch off the rsx, then I saw some sparks and noticed that the soldering had loosend on the + plug. and I did turn it off,
After that I have not been able to turn on my rsx, it dont get any power.
I have tried another esc in the RX and it did work,and the servo works..
and I have tried my hotwire and it reads the rsx...
Any ideas folks?????????????
I have a dex410 with a tekin rsx and a speed passion 4,5T motor..
It fly`s
But last time I was out driving the soldering on the capasitor broke, "I am not the best with a soldering iron" so when I was finished driving I took off the body and was about to switch off the rsx, then I saw some sparks and noticed that the soldering had loosend on the + plug. and I did turn it off,
After that I have not been able to turn on my rsx, it dont get any power.
I have tried another esc in the RX and it did work,and the servo works..
and I have tried my hotwire and it reads the rsx...
Any ideas folks?????????????
11-19-2015 | 10:35 AM
#963
Hey guys, I've searched several times and haven't found answers, so hoping someone here might know.
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Thanks in advance for the help!
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Thanks in advance for the help!
11-19-2015 | 10:36 AM
#964
hello you guys..
I have a dex410 with a tekin rsx and a speed passion 4,5T motor..
It fly`s
But last time I was out driving the soldering on the capasitor broke, "I am not the best with a soldering iron" so when I was finished driving I took off the body and was about to switch off the rsx, then I saw some sparks and noticed that the soldering had loosend on the + plug. and I did turn it off,
After that I have not been able to turn on my rsx, it dont get any power.
I have tried another esc in the RX and it did work,and the servo works..
and I have tried my hotwire and it reads the rsx...
Any ideas folks?????????????
I have a dex410 with a tekin rsx and a speed passion 4,5T motor..
It fly`s
But last time I was out driving the soldering on the capasitor broke, "I am not the best with a soldering iron" so when I was finished driving I took off the body and was about to switch off the rsx, then I saw some sparks and noticed that the soldering had loosend on the + plug. and I did turn it off,
After that I have not been able to turn on my rsx, it dont get any power.
I have tried another esc in the RX and it did work,and the servo works..
and I have tried my hotwire and it reads the rsx...
Any ideas folks?????????????
Do this test:
Unplug the esc from the receiver, unplug the fan if equipped, unplug the sensor harness from the esc. Attempt a power up. Result?
11-19-2015 | 12:04 PM
#965
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Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 506
From: CostaMesa,CA
I'm not sure if i'm still havign motor issues or what, but i turned up the timing on the motor and it seems to have forward spinning faster than reverse, but not by much.
my new concern is that now my brake strength is at 100% but it's not stopping on a dime like i know it can (when going in reverse to forward its almost immediate). Is there a reason why? I have recalibrated my esc and i did the simple test by seeing it blink under full brake. What gives?
I'm using a tekin RSX. Maybe this motor is complete garbage?
my new concern is that now my brake strength is at 100% but it's not stopping on a dime like i know it can (when going in reverse to forward its almost immediate). Is there a reason why? I have recalibrated my esc and i did the simple test by seeing it blink under full brake. What gives?
I'm using a tekin RSX. Maybe this motor is complete garbage?
Last edited by radioctrlhead; 11-19-2015 at 12:25 PM.
11-20-2015 | 06:52 AM
#966
Tech Initiate
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 27
can I send the rsx in to tekin??
I cant spend another 200$ for a new esc
11-20-2015 | 09:26 AM
#967
I'm not sure if i'm still havign motor issues or what, but i turned up the timing on the motor and it seems to have forward spinning faster than reverse, but not by much.
my new concern is that now my brake strength is at 100% but it's not stopping on a dime like i know it can (when going in reverse to forward its almost immediate). Is there a reason why? I have recalibrated my esc and i did the simple test by seeing it blink under full brake. What gives?
I'm using a tekin RSX. Maybe this motor is complete garbage?
my new concern is that now my brake strength is at 100% but it's not stopping on a dime like i know it can (when going in reverse to forward its almost immediate). Is there a reason why? I have recalibrated my esc and i did the simple test by seeing it blink under full brake. What gives?
I'm using a tekin RSX. Maybe this motor is complete garbage?
11-20-2015 | 02:36 PM
#969
11-21-2015 | 07:56 AM
#970
Tech Master
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,213
From: Calgary, Alberta
Hey guys, I've searched several times and haven't found answers, so hoping someone here might know.
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
Checked the hotwire, it's 10.2.2. Next steps? Also, now the 2 cars that I tried to set at 0.1s resolution aren't recording any data anymore, just empty every time I try to download the data?
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
I watched the video. I had watched it when it first came out, and like I said, that was my understanding of what you're targeting too, thanks for the confirmation. Follow up, do you look for the same flattening in Mod? I was just datalogging my Mod car, it's a 5.5t, and on the track dropping 5 teeth raised my rpm from 28,000 tp 50,000 on the straight, but it's not quite rolling over yet. Just out of curiosity, I picked the car up and pulled full throttle for a couple seconds, it recorded 80,000rpm!
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Ok, thanks, that's why nothing turned up on a search. I guess my followup would be, do you think an RSX with 0.1sec resolution data logging combined with a Fantom load would make a useful dyno? It wouldn't give you absolute values, but if all I'm interested in is which of my 17.5 motors is stronger, it would give you comparative curves of your different motors (would be really helpful in this if you could overlay 5 or more curves). If it's a lost cause, then I won't wait, and I'll start to look for other options.
Thanks in advance for the help!
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
Checked the hotwire, it's 10.2.2. Next steps? Also, now the 2 cars that I tried to set at 0.1s resolution aren't recording any data anymore, just empty every time I try to download the data?
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
I watched the video. I had watched it when it first came out, and like I said, that was my understanding of what you're targeting too, thanks for the confirmation. Follow up, do you look for the same flattening in Mod? I was just datalogging my Mod car, it's a 5.5t, and on the track dropping 5 teeth raised my rpm from 28,000 tp 50,000 on the straight, but it's not quite rolling over yet. Just out of curiosity, I picked the car up and pulled full throttle for a couple seconds, it recorded 80,000rpm!
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Ok, thanks, that's why nothing turned up on a search. I guess my followup would be, do you think an RSX with 0.1sec resolution data logging combined with a Fantom load would make a useful dyno? It wouldn't give you absolute values, but if all I'm interested in is which of my 17.5 motors is stronger, it would give you comparative curves of your different motors (would be really helpful in this if you could overlay 5 or more curves). If it's a lost cause, then I won't wait, and I'll start to look for other options.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Thanks again!
Josh
Last edited by IronRing Racing; 11-24-2015 at 06:39 AM.
12-01-2015 | 10:26 PM
#972
12-01-2015 | 11:37 PM
#973
Tech Master
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,213
From: Calgary, Alberta
Hey, thanks Randy. Yes, my replies are in Blue under your Red comments.
Josh
Josh
Hey guys, I've searched several times and haven't found answers, so hoping someone here might know.
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
Checked the hotwire, it's 10.2.2. Next steps? Also, now the 2 cars that I tried to set at 0.1s resolution aren't recording any data anymore, just empty every time I try to download the data?
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
I watched the video. I had watched it when it first came out, and like I said, that was my understanding of what you're targeting too, thanks for the confirmation. Follow up, do you look for the same flattening in Mod? I was just datalogging my Mod car, it's a 5.5t, and on the track dropping 5 teeth raised my rpm from 28,000 tp 50,000 on the straight, but it's not quite rolling over yet. Just out of curiosity, I picked the car up and pulled full throttle for a couple seconds, it recorded 80,000rpm!
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Ok, thanks, that's why nothing turned up on a search. I guess my followup would be, do you think an RSX with 0.1sec resolution data logging combined with a Fantom load would make a useful dyno? It wouldn't give you absolute values, but if all I'm interested in is which of my 17.5 motors is stronger, it would give you comparative curves of your different motors (would be really helpful in this if you could overlay 5 or more curves). If it's a lost cause, then I won't wait, and I'll start to look for other options.
Thanks in advance for the help!
1. How do I change the datalog resolution to 0.1? When I’m reading a datalog, I see that it can be selected in the menu. So I selected 0.1, closed the datalog window. Hit Apply Settings in the Hotwire window. When I do a run and then look at the new datalog, it’s still showing 0.2 in the resolution drop down menu. What version of Hotwire are you using? Do check plug in ONLY the Hotwire, launch the software, hit the "help" button.
Checked the hotwire, it's 10.2.2. Next steps? Also, now the 2 cars that I tried to set at 0.1s resolution aren't recording any data anymore, just empty every time I try to download the data?
2. For gearing, should I be targeting that the RPM’s are just flattening out at the end of the straight? I have also heard that I should be hitting peak RPM about halfway down the straight? That wouldn’t seem right to me compared to an internal combustion engine, where you’d target to hit redline at the end of the straight, but maybe electrical motors are different? You're looking for a steep peak not really a broad "curve" here. I go over this in the Tekin Clinic Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69d7...ature=youtu.be
I watched the video. I had watched it when it first came out, and like I said, that was my understanding of what you're targeting too, thanks for the confirmation. Follow up, do you look for the same flattening in Mod? I was just datalogging my Mod car, it's a 5.5t, and on the track dropping 5 teeth raised my rpm from 28,000 tp 50,000 on the straight, but it's not quite rolling over yet. Just out of curiosity, I picked the car up and pulled full throttle for a couple seconds, it recorded 80,000rpm!
3. I have bought a Fantom dyno & extra RSX, and had the idea to use the RSX to datalog the dyno runs. The idea is to hook the motor up on the dyno, just using the Fantom as a physical load, but using the RSX and the datalogs as the only dyno recordings. I don’t care about absolute torque & HP numbers, just about the relative difference between my own motors. So I would want to export the data log files and then import the numbers into excel so I could overlay the curves from the different motors. I see the .tek datalog files are hexadecimal, is there a way to convert those back to the numeric values so that I can graph them in excel? Is my approach even possible with 0.1sec resolution? There is no way at this time. However we are working on an option to allow multiple runs to be laid over each other for viewing.
Ok, thanks, that's why nothing turned up on a search. I guess my followup would be, do you think an RSX with 0.1sec resolution data logging combined with a Fantom load would make a useful dyno? It wouldn't give you absolute values, but if all I'm interested in is which of my 17.5 motors is stronger, it would give you comparative curves of your different motors (would be really helpful in this if you could overlay 5 or more curves). If it's a lost cause, then I won't wait, and I'll start to look for other options.
Thanks in advance for the help!
Last edited by IronRing Racing; 12-02-2015 at 01:19 AM.
12-02-2015 | 09:24 AM
#974
Go into the esc and data logging and make sure the data streams you're trying to record are "checked."
In mod we may not flat spot since we're often over powered to begin with. You can find under gearing with it though. Yes 80k is getting after it and why we never recommend free revving at full throttle.
It may show you higher rpm but it's not going to show you "watts" or any form of torque so not really a useful dyno in my opinion.
12-03-2015 | 03:06 PM
#975
Tech Master
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,213
From: Calgary, Alberta
Thanks Randy,
I have the channels selected. I do a run, and there's nothing recorded and the channels are all turned off. Rinse repeat a couple times, same results. I've tried doing it with the resolution set to 0.2 and to 0.1, still no data. After making changes (channels, resolution) I'm closing the data log screen and hitting "Apply Settings" on the main screen, not sure if I need to or if the settings are updated live, but that's about the only other thing I'm doing. Thoughts?
So in Mod, undergearing would look like a very steep RPM trace, that doesn't even begin to flatten?
Last question for the dyno, if I don't care about the actual "Watts" value, just want to know which of my motors is stronger, wouldn't the RPM graphs under load effectively tell me which motor is stronger? So when you're able to overlay multiple RPM traces (more than 2 hopefully), the one that accelerates the load faster is stronger, correct?
Thanks again Randy!
Josh
I have the channels selected. I do a run, and there's nothing recorded and the channels are all turned off. Rinse repeat a couple times, same results. I've tried doing it with the resolution set to 0.2 and to 0.1, still no data. After making changes (channels, resolution) I'm closing the data log screen and hitting "Apply Settings" on the main screen, not sure if I need to or if the settings are updated live, but that's about the only other thing I'm doing. Thoughts?
So in Mod, undergearing would look like a very steep RPM trace, that doesn't even begin to flatten?
Last question for the dyno, if I don't care about the actual "Watts" value, just want to know which of my motors is stronger, wouldn't the RPM graphs under load effectively tell me which motor is stronger? So when you're able to overlay multiple RPM traces (more than 2 hopefully), the one that accelerates the load faster is stronger, correct?
Thanks again Randy!
Josh
Last edited by IronRing Racing; 12-04-2015 at 10:40 AM.