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euromut 06-25-2011 06:02 PM

Sensor Issue - Novak
 
I have tried this with 2 ESCs a Havoc 3S and a GTB2, Using a Ballistic 10.5

Initially I was running it with the Havoc, and the tuck shut down during practice. Now when I power it up, and pull the throttle, the ESC flashes the red and yellow light twice and restarts.

After trying a new sensor cable. And verifying the stator is functional by trying the motor with a sensor-less ESC.....

I tried a brand new GTB2. After doing the initial programming. the ESC powers up and the RED and BLUE lights go on solid. No response from the motor at all.

Ran the Timing Sensor Test, I understand one light should turn at a time as you rotate the rotor. But the Red and Yellow light always turn on at the same time, and then aternate to the BLUE LED.

I am guessing this means the Sensor is shot. But looking for a second opinion.

Sorry for being so long winded, Just trying to be thorough.
Thanks for your help.

daverobbo5 06-26-2011 03:27 AM

sorry buddy. it's not a sensor issue. it's a novak issue


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Originally Posted by racer1812 (Post 5610766)
(03-29-2009, 12:43 PM )So my question is this, Is the shut down problem fixed or not??? I want another BL set-up and you can't beat the price of the havoc system. I've been an orange guy for over 20 years and have never seen Novak have a problem like this.


Originally Posted by y2kgtp (Post 5615358)
I'd like to get one of these 150$ setups for 13.5T truck, but just worry about the number of problems reported.



Originally Posted by Vman11 (Post 5666947)
I just want to inform people that my Havoc system ( the Sport 8.5 ) has been problematic since day one. I 've been in RC cars some 15 years and has bought many Novak items. I really feel your pain and believe that Novak should somehow reimburse your shipping cost.

Anyway, my Havoc setup would cut off for no apparent reason since the first run. I tried all sort of gearing but Last night, at the track, it just stopped working for no apparent reason. The motor and speed control was cool. The red and green light was blinking and throttle input did not respond. Turning it off and on but then it would stop again.

I am taking it in for repair soon but I just want you guys to know of my experience with this setup.


Originally Posted by blade329 (Post 5672249)
My Havoc died today and I am not happy. This is the second time this has happened. My first one died and Novak replaced it. I got about 4 laps in with this one before it was gone. It just stopped running and I could get no further throttle response from it, no matter which battery I put in. I am of the opinion that the Havoc is just a piece of garbage. I may or may not send it back in for repair. The way I feel now, I just might throw it in the trash, where it belongs, and get a different speed control. Chalk it up to a lesson learned about cheap ESC's. Worthless piece of crap!


Originally Posted by pgeldz (Post 5672977)
Well guys, add me to the list of folks with their Havoc ESC cutting out.

Didn't get more than half a lap before it just stopped. Came back on and I got around the backside of the course, and it cut out again.

I used all sorts of batteries (NiMs, Lipo's) and it still cut out. I took all the electronics out of the car today (Tamiya DB01 4wd buggy) to inspect it.

It's at the point where I can literaly tap the heat sink and it'll turn off and turn on again. Seems to do it with any slight impact. Imagine in an off road car what that'd be like. Every fricking jump it cuts off!

I've been very pleased with Novak products in the past, but this Havok system is causing more "Havoc" than fun!

Novak, what do I need to do to send it in for repair?

- Paulie


Originally Posted by y2kgtp (Post 5678919)
I won't be getting one of these for sure now....too many complaints.



Originally Posted by brickshouse (Post 5685593)
i bought a havok 8.5 system in feb. and esc has run fine but 2 sensor wires broke off right at the harness(going into the esc) in a middle of the damn race. I've never touched any of the wires it was all connected and soldered right out of the box. I had th spend 15 bucks to have it shipped, they got it friday, and still no response.......tried emailind today...see what happens. Guess i should be happy its not the esc like you guys.....not yet at least:nod:



Originally Posted by muzza_t (Post 5726317)
Well my Havoc has just started doing what everyone elses has been doing, motor thermal cutoff keeps cutting in at 130-140 degrees.

to Steve Weiss, I have sent you an email to your Novak address in regards to this problem. I hope living in Australia won't prevent me from a fast reponse in sorting this issue out.


Originally Posted by muzza_t (Post 5730253)
You're lucky it only took 2 weeks, I'm in Australia and now having to send mine back to the states, kiss goodbye to over a months worth of racing by the time i get mine back. 6 meetings of no points:flaming:


Originally Posted by TfnG (Post 5814020)
sent mine in yesterday...:(



Originally Posted by stallen50 (Post 8773388)
has anyone had problems with not having much brakes with the havoc pro? I have tryed every setting and still can only get about 1/2 brakes?


Originally Posted by burnineyes (Post 9202336)
This was my favorite part; "and the red brand was expensive and the orange brand is even worse than dealing with bec's."

I took this to mean, "at least it isnt orange."


euromut 06-26-2011 04:28 AM

Yeah, that was awesomely helpful :ha:

daverobbo5 06-26-2011 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by euromut (Post 9307367)
Yeah, that was awesomely helpful :ha:

awesome it into the bin and that will help. :nod::sneaky:

euromut 06-26-2011 08:14 AM

Sorry your luck with Novak sucks. I ran a year of bashing and a season of racing on my Havoc. This is the only issue I have encountered. And from the looks it it, its only a $15 sensor and has nothing to do with the ESC.

I was just looking for some insight from some one with real technical experience. Not some one who simply lists other peoples failures as their own knowledge.

daverobbo5 06-26-2011 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by euromut (Post 9307996)
I was just looking for some insight from some one with real technical experience.

I'm sure you doing your best but you might have to read inbetween the lines.


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