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NTR 06-18-2011 09:46 PM

gtb 2 and kinetic
 
hey guys,

i have a gtb 2, and kinetic esc, both with problems.

The kinetic will run just fine for about 3 mins, then it will just die. no lights or anything.. but the fan still runs, i have tried over 5 different motor, battery, and receiver combinations, i have replaced the signal harness, the sensor wire, the switch, and the power cap.. nothing worked.

now the gtb 2, this thing was running strong for about two months.. then i took it out of my durango desc410r, and put it into my x factory x-6 with a novak 7.5 motor, now every time it lands a jump the esc shuts off for a second then goes through the arming process again, i have tried different motors and batteries, i have changed signal harnesses, switches, and sensor wires.. nothing seems to make it work again...

any help would be greatly appreciated..

NTR 06-19-2011 11:15 PM

any suggestions? or has any one had this same problem?

daverobbo5 06-20-2011 03:30 AM

yeah. HEAPS of people have tears and trouble with Novak.
a few recken they get something out of 'em.

but i've had the ' it just don't work ' problem with 2 Novak speedies and read about plenty more.

we're all disappointed...good money and time down the drain.

solved the problem by replacing them with Tekin gear, but anything is better. Been placing ever since...

lostinbaja 06-20-2011 05:47 AM

Try jumping out (bypassing) the switch. I had alot of issues with their switches.

Banshee8530 06-20-2011 10:31 AM

Have you made any attempt to contact Novak's industry-leading customer service about your problems?

[email protected]

Charlie can get you set up in no time. Seriously.

daverobbo5 06-26-2011 03:51 AM


Originally Posted by NTR (Post 9274452)
hey guys,

i have a gtb 2, and kinetic esc, both with problems.

you and all these other users.




http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...-problems.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-problems.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...trum-dx3s.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-problems.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...g-problem.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...ir-update.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-gtx-escs.html
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27013
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=277472
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_10...m.htm#10043491
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.ph...4889&view=next
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_76...tm.htm#7672133
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnxNe_BwwU
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ates-me-2.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...ballistic.html
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=14538
http://www.rcshortcourse.com/forum/s...ad.php?p=98222
http://www.daddyhobby.com/forum/showthread.php?p=449833
http://www.daddyhobby.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51327
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...oc-issues.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...oc-issues.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...tting-out.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...t-problem.html
http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10960
http://radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=108116
http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread....5-ESC-problem
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...-havoc-14.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...-shutdown.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHnxNe_BwwU
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...brushless.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...garbage-4.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...-havoc-14.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...ml#post9268565
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...ics-novak.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...sue-novak.html
http://www.rctech.net/forum/radio-el...2-kinetic.html



Originally Posted by racer1812 (Post 5610766)
(03-29-2009, 12:43 PM )So my question is this, Is the shut down problem fixed or not??? I want another BL set-up and you can't beat the price of the havoc system. I've been an orange guy for over 20 years and have never seen Novak have a problem like this.


Originally Posted by y2kgtp (Post 5615358)
I'd like to get one of these 150$ setups for 13.5T truck, but just worry about the number of problems reported.



Originally Posted by Vman11 (Post 5666947)
I just want to inform people that my Havoc system ( the Sport 8.5 ) has been problematic since day one. I 've been in RC cars some 15 years and has bought many Novak items. I really feel your pain and believe that Novak should somehow reimburse your shipping cost.

Anyway, my Havoc setup would cut off for no apparent reason since the first run. I tried all sort of gearing but Last night, at the track, it just stopped working for no apparent reason. The motor and speed control was cool. The red and green light was blinking and throttle input did not respond. Turning it off and on but then it would stop again.

I am taking it in for repair soon but I just want you guys to know of my experience with this setup.


Originally Posted by blade329 (Post 5672249)
My Havoc died today and I am not happy. This is the second time this has happened. My first one died and Novak replaced it. I got about 4 laps in with this one before it was gone. It just stopped running and I could get no further throttle response from it, no matter which battery I put in. I am of the opinion that the Havoc is just a piece of garbage. I may or may not send it back in for repair. The way I feel now, I just might throw it in the trash, where it belongs, and get a different speed control. Chalk it up to a lesson learned about cheap ESC's. Worthless piece of crap!


Originally Posted by pgeldz (Post 5672977)
Well guys, add me to the list of folks with their Havoc ESC cutting out.

Didn't get more than half a lap before it just stopped. Came back on and I got around the backside of the course, and it cut out again.

I used all sorts of batteries (NiMs, Lipo's) and it still cut out. I took all the electronics out of the car today (Tamiya DB01 4wd buggy) to inspect it.

It's at the point where I can literaly tap the heat sink and it'll turn off and turn on again. Seems to do it with any slight impact. Imagine in an off road car what that'd be like. Every fricking jump it cuts off!

I've been very pleased with Novak products in the past, but this Havok system is causing more "Havoc" than fun!

Novak, what do I need to do to send it in for repair?

- Paulie


Originally Posted by y2kgtp (Post 5678919)
I won't be getting one of these for sure now....too many complaints.



Originally Posted by brickshouse (Post 5685593)
i bought a havok 8.5 system in feb. and esc has run fine but 2 sensor wires broke off right at the harness(going into the esc) in a middle of the damn race. I've never touched any of the wires it was all connected and soldered right out of the box. I had th spend 15 bucks to have it shipped, they got it friday, and still no response.......tried emailind today...see what happens. Guess i should be happy its not the esc like you guys.....not yet at least:nod:



Originally Posted by muzza_t (Post 5726317)
Well my Havoc has just started doing what everyone elses has been doing, motor thermal cutoff keeps cutting in at 130-140 degrees.

to Steve Weiss, I have sent you an email to your Novak address in regards to this problem. I hope living in Australia won't prevent me from a fast reponse in sorting this issue out.


Originally Posted by muzza_t (Post 5730253)
You're lucky it only took 2 weeks, I'm in Australia and now having to send mine back to the states, kiss goodbye to over a months worth of racing by the time i get mine back. 6 meetings of no points:flaming:


Originally Posted by TfnG (Post 5814020)
sent mine in yesterday...:(



Originally Posted by stallen50 (Post 8773388)
has anyone had problems with not having much brakes with the havoc pro? I have tryed every setting and still can only get about 1/2 brakes?


Originally Posted by burnineyes (Post 9202336)
This was my favorite part; "and the red brand was expensive and the orange brand is even worse than dealing with bec's."

I took this to mean, "at least it isnt orange."


Originally Posted by farmerphil22 (Post 9297308)
I'm not a happy camper. To have to keep 3 Novak Kinetic's in a revolving pattern to race one vehicle is pathetic


Originally Posted by NTR (Post 9274452)
hey guys,

i have a gtb 2, and kinetic esc, both with problems.

The kinetic will run for about 3 mins, then it will just die..

the gtb 2, was running strong for about two months..now nothing seems to make it work again...



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