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tschenck 09-09-2011 04:25 PM

Are the 4 pole 550s going to be the same length? Dont really want to cut my my chassis. thanks

Scottmisfits 09-09-2011 04:32 PM

No, they will be more inline with a 550 size motor.

SaladFork 09-09-2011 04:38 PM

The 5mm shaft R series 4 poles are going to be longer than the 3mm shaft versions. We are using the same length as the L 550's, which is shorter than the VST XL's and will not require any trimming to get the motor into the SC10 4wd. :nod:

tschenck 09-09-2011 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by SaladFork (Post 9637694)
The 5mm shaft R series 4 poles are going to be longer than the 3mm shaft versions. We are using the same length as the L 550's, which is shorter than the VST XL's and will not require any trimming to get the motor into the SC10 4wd. :nod:

That sounds good. I already have a pro4 on the way but I will probably just sell that and wait for a 550 4 pole then. Outdoor season is ending soon where I am anyways so I guess I can wait a little longer for those.

BSchorr 09-09-2011 06:25 PM

What do I want to gear this thing at? I have a 12 tooth on it right now.. but someone was telling me hat these are torquey motors... so have to compinsate with a 14/15ish?

I managed to finagle, grind, whittle, and sand my way in there!

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/e...g/d7c4cee2.jpg
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SaladFork 09-09-2011 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by tschenck (Post 9637706)
That sounds good. I already have a pro4 on the way but I will probably just sell that and wait for a 550 4 pole then. Outdoor season is ending soon where I am anyways so I guess I can wait a little longer for those.

It's a good system, I have been running it the last month without issues in my SCTe. I can't wait to get my hands on the R52, it's going to be a monster in the horse power department. :nod:


Originally Posted by BSchorr (Post 9638045)
What do I want to gear this thing at? I have a 12 tooth on it right now.. but someone was telling me hat these are torquey motors... so have to compinsate with a 14/15ish?

I managed to finagle, grind, whittle, and sand my way in there!

Nice, that is a very clean job!!! Thanks for the pictures also!

I run a 14T on the 5.5 and it gets up and moves nicely and very smooth. Don't run any boost/timing on the 550's. They come stock from the factory with 30 degrees on the can. If you need more speed gear up.

BSchorr 09-09-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by SaladFork (Post 9638262)
It's a good system, I have been running it the last month without issues in my SCTe. I can't wait to get my hands on the R52, it's going to be a monster in the horse power department. :nod:



Nice, that is a very clean job!!! Thanks for the pictures also!

I run a 14T on the 5.5 and it gets up and moves nicely and very smooth. Don't run any boost/timing on the 550's. They come stock from the factory with 30 degrees on the can. If you need more speed gear up.

A friend/regional viper driver gave me these settings to start with...

Brake strength - 80%
Brake PWM freq - 8000HZ
Brake curve - linear
Neutral drag brake - 10%
Throttle PWM freq - 9600Hz
Throttle punch - 75% - 90% depending on traction
Throttle curve - -1Expo
Deadband - middle
Stock Blinky mode
Motor temp cuttoff - Disabled
ESC protection - 200 degrees
Holeshot mode - off

Anyone think of anything else?

X God 09-09-2011 08:31 PM

How are these 4 pole motors compared to the VSE motor, My question is would in work in 1/8 th scale with a 10r

DoucheMaloosh 09-10-2011 11:04 AM

Yesterday was my first day with my Viper R/C VTX10 ESC & VST 7.5 motor. I love it. ;) I got 2nd in mod 2wd.

SaladFork 09-10-2011 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by BSchorr (Post 9638291)
A friend/regional viper driver gave me these settings to start with...

Brake strength - 80%
Brake PWM freq - 8000HZ
Brake curve - linear
Neutral drag brake - 10%
Throttle PWM freq - 9600Hz
Throttle punch - 75% - 90% depending on traction
Throttle curve - -1Expo
Deadband - middle
Stock Blinky mode
Motor temp cuttoff - Disabled
ESC protection - 200 degrees
Holeshot mode - off

Anyone think of anything else?

This is what we at Viper recommend.

VTX10R-Profile#2
Brake strength 80%
Brake PWM freq 8000HZ
Brake curve linear
Neutral drag brake 10%
Throttle PWM freq 9600Hz
Throttle punch 15%-20%
Throttle curve linear
Deadband middle
no timing- default
no motor protection
esc protection 240 degrees


Originally Posted by X God (Post 9638460)
How are these 4 pole motors compared to the VSE motor, My question is would in work in 1/8 th scale with a 10r

No, it's a 1/10th scale system, it's benchmarked in the SCTe so unless you are rolling a 810, I'm going to say no.


Originally Posted by DoucheMaloosh (Post 9640248)
Yesterday was my first day with my Viper R/C VTX10 ESC & VST 7.5 motor. I love it. ;) I got 2nd in mod 2wd.

Saw the results!! You had a very short time for setup last night and did very well. Nice work! :nod:

bring it on 09-10-2011 01:57 PM

My Viper powered Kyosho sc ran great last night. TQ'ED and won open sc A main.
+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

http://i726.photobucket.com/albums/w...9-11scmain.jpg

BSchorr 09-10-2011 02:41 PM

Doesnt look like very high competition ther for ya..

Looks good!

Can you PM me all your ESC settings by chance? Im new to Viper stuff, going to get a system from my SC10

bigjerry 09-10-2011 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by SaladFork (Post 9640409)
This is what we at Viper recommend.

VTX10R-Profile#2
Brake strength 80%
Brake PWM freq 8000HZ
Brake curve linear
Neutral drag brake 10%
Throttle PWM freq 9600Hz
Throttle punch 15%-20%
Throttle curve linear
Deadband middle
no timing- default
no motor protection
esc protection 240 degrees



No, it's a 1/10th scale system, it's benchmarked in the SCTe so unless you are rolling a 810, I'm going to say no.



Saw the results!! You had a very short time for setup last night and did very well. Nice work! :nod:

what motor was this 4.5 or 5.5

SaladFork 09-10-2011 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by bigjerry (Post 9641213)
what motor was this 4.5 or 5.5

Either, 4.5 or 5.5... Just gearing would be different. :nod:

BSchorr 09-10-2011 05:46 PM

Isnt 240 on the esc kinda... high?!?


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