4LikesNEW HOBBYWING STOCK SUPERCHARGED SOFTWARE
02-20-2012, 08:38 PM
#7846
I'll probably still go for it...
02-21-2012, 12:56 AM
#7848
Maybe $195 US is the price of the combo ESC + Motor + Program card 
$195 US just for the ESC is very high, priced out of market
$195 US just for the ESC is very high, priced out of market
02-21-2012, 01:27 AM
#7849
The actual retail of the 2.1 was $180 but we had all the wrong doers devalueing the product so what the actual rise is 25% more like i didnt say 25% rise on the devalued price i said 25% on the actual retail pricing its not 60% as most have stated many were losing money on the 2.1 to make sales through there online stores if they owned warehouses and had to pay wages and all there other stuff involved to run a business trust me they would be selling the 2.1 at $200.
02-21-2012, 02:08 AM
#7851
02-21-2012, 02:08 AM
#7852
02-21-2012, 02:14 AM
#7853
priced out of the market ?Agno you cant say that as you havent seen the unit or the software so you cannot really comment until the unit comes out on the market .
The actual retail of the 2.1 was $180 but we had all the wrong doers devalueing the product so what the actual rise is 25% more like i didnt say 25% rise on the devalued price i said 25% on the actual retail pricing its not 60% as most have stated many were losing money on the 2.1 to make sales through there online stores if they owned warehouses and had to pay wages and all there other stuff involved to run a business trust me they would be selling the 2.1 at $200.
The actual retail of the 2.1 was $180 but we had all the wrong doers devalueing the product so what the actual rise is 25% more like i didnt say 25% rise on the devalued price i said 25% on the actual retail pricing its not 60% as most have stated many were losing money on the 2.1 to make sales through there online stores if they owned warehouses and had to pay wages and all there other stuff involved to run a business trust me they would be selling the 2.1 at $200.
- revealing the v3 prototype 6 months early and destroying the market for the 2.1
- threatening to remove the "bad guys" from the dealer list when the ONLY current source of Hobbywing products in the UK is the "bad guy", whereas the "good guy" has disappeared off the face of the earth, possibly with a number of customers payments.
- badmouthing the product of your OEM customers (alleging the Orion are making up the amp ratings)
- giving out incorrect advice (most recent being your claim that the LRP 4-dot timing is not the minimum timing setting when it most certainly is)
...you are now keen on pricing the product out of the market completely?
And you are supposed to be HELPING Hobbywing?
02-21-2012, 03:04 AM
#7854
So, not content with...
- revealing the v3 prototype 6 months early and destroying the market for the 2.1
- threatening to remove the "bad guys" from the dealer list when the ONLY current source of Hobbywing products in the UK is the "bad guy", whereas the "good guy" has disappeared off the face of the earth, possibly with a number of customers payments.
- badmouthing the product of your OEM customers (alleging the Orion are making up the amp ratings)
- giving out incorrect advice (most recent being your claim that the LRP 4-dot timing is not the minimum timing setting when it most certainly is)
...you are now keen on pricing the product out of the market completely?
And you are supposed to be HELPING Hobbywing?
- revealing the v3 prototype 6 months early and destroying the market for the 2.1
- threatening to remove the "bad guys" from the dealer list when the ONLY current source of Hobbywing products in the UK is the "bad guy", whereas the "good guy" has disappeared off the face of the earth, possibly with a number of customers payments.
- badmouthing the product of your OEM customers (alleging the Orion are making up the amp ratings)
- giving out incorrect advice (most recent being your claim that the LRP 4-dot timing is not the minimum timing setting when it most certainly is)
...you are now keen on pricing the product out of the market completely?
And you are supposed to be HELPING Hobbywing?
As for bagging a oem customer i only speak the truth .I was asked a question and i answered on what it was simple .
As for cherry stuart if that is who your reffering to i dont know were he is havent heard from the guy for months either has the factory .The guy has had a lot of bad luck with break in's and much much more .
if someone in the uk has taken off with customers funds well we dont know about that maybe you can tell us who it is please and we can see what the factory can do to help these guys .
To tell the world that we are working on a new product is no crime plus to be honest with you the 2.1 sales have been very high actually the release of the v3 prototype hasnt done anything to slow the sales of the 2.1 .I would also like to know were you got your information again as it seems you know more about our business than what we do basically you info is baseless .
for pricing ourselves out of the market time will tell but i can tell you this at that pricing customers from all around the world are lining up to purchase the v3 so i dont really know were your getting your information from please let us know .
It seems you have had a bad experience with the purchase of our product from the uk sellers so please if there is anything we can do for you please email me .
Last edited by COBRARACING; 02-21-2012 at 03:15 AM.
02-21-2012, 03:12 AM
#7855
02-21-2012, 06:40 AM
#7856
Hi Angelo and any HW marketers who might read this
From what I see around me, xerun buyers are budget-minded racers. By pricing the new ESC higher (both via RRP and via threatening to delist any price-breaker) you will alienate yourself a lot of your customer base, who will then turn to the "hardcore racing" and then similarly-priced brands like Tekin, SP (which shouldn't matter much to HW I guess) and to some extent Orion and (not much in WE where I live but I would think a bunch in the US) Novak.
My point is - I have the feeling the growth HW has experienced this past couple of years despite being unknown of just 5ys ago was a combination of a great product AND a low street price. I think the brand is still a bit young to consider its equity good enough to price up that significantly, especially in the current environment, regardless of the fantastic specs of the V3 product. I am not worried about the RRP really but rather about you terminating "discounter" contracts, I feel you will lose tremendous volume and hence will have to crank prices up even further to make it up.
Paul (happy xerun xtreme stock, v2.1 120A, SCT 120A owner... but not willing to pay crazy amounts for them 2yrs from now either).
From what I see around me, xerun buyers are budget-minded racers. By pricing the new ESC higher (both via RRP and via threatening to delist any price-breaker) you will alienate yourself a lot of your customer base, who will then turn to the "hardcore racing" and then similarly-priced brands like Tekin, SP (which shouldn't matter much to HW I guess) and to some extent Orion and (not much in WE where I live but I would think a bunch in the US) Novak.
My point is - I have the feeling the growth HW has experienced this past couple of years despite being unknown of just 5ys ago was a combination of a great product AND a low street price. I think the brand is still a bit young to consider its equity good enough to price up that significantly, especially in the current environment, regardless of the fantastic specs of the V3 product. I am not worried about the RRP really but rather about you terminating "discounter" contracts, I feel you will lose tremendous volume and hence will have to crank prices up even further to make it up.
Paul (happy xerun xtreme stock, v2.1 120A, SCT 120A owner... but not willing to pay crazy amounts for them 2yrs from now either).
02-21-2012, 07:47 AM
#7857
Xtreme stock bottom case
Where can I buy just the bottom case of the Xtreme stock speedo? The blue one.
02-21-2012, 07:52 AM
#7858
Everyone I know who buys HW, buys it basically on price point alone, in other words it's great gear if your on a budget, take away it's pricing, and you just about take away it's market niche/identity.
At near enough to $200, I'd actually be looking elsewhere, cause those new Vipers look super cool (with better cap placment), and the Tekin is still smaller I believe?, maybe it will still sell, but somehow the value for money shine is wearing off the brand.
At near enough to $200, I'd actually be looking elsewhere, cause those new Vipers look super cool (with better cap placment), and the Tekin is still smaller I believe?, maybe it will still sell, but somehow the value for money shine is wearing off the brand.
02-21-2012, 08:24 AM
#7859
Everyone I know who buys HW, buys it basically on price point alone, in other words it's great gear if your on a budget, take away it's pricing, and you just about take away it's market niche/identity.
At near enough to $200, I'd actually be looking elsewhere, cause those new Vipers look super cool (with better cap placment), and the Tekin is still smaller I believe?, maybe it will still sell, but somehow the value for money shine is wearing off the brand.
At near enough to $200, I'd actually be looking elsewhere, cause those new Vipers look super cool (with better cap placment), and the Tekin is still smaller I believe?, maybe it will still sell, but somehow the value for money shine is wearing off the brand.
02-21-2012, 09:06 AM
#7860
Tech Adept
my vote
I have been following this thread for some time.When the v3 was first mentioned it was going to be 15 to 20% price rise from the v2.1. The 2.1 is £85= $125 so $195 is a massive difference and I for one will not be spending my cash on it and would not have waited 6 months for the release 
BY the way the hobby industry in the uk see $195 then charge us £195 so it will be a huge increase.
BY the way the hobby industry in the uk see $195 then charge us £195 so it will be a huge increase.