Thanks! I haven't considered asking and honestly I'm not even interested. I know how to use them to fix a recurring problem I encounter with my radio and that's really I care about.

If anyone has ever doubted the ability of this pro version Marc Rheinard is currently overnight TQ at the 1:12 worlds using this radio. If there is any car that needs a good radio this is it.

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I find the growing market acceptance of FlySky is reminiscent of the progression Hobbywing went through over the past several years.
I hope they continue to develop, refine, and improve the reliability of the product.

Absolutly. They certainly have different teirs of fit/finish. I'm sure both companies will continue with offering products for different budgets. The Noble is a game changer for FlySky, 'cause I swore I'd never buy another one of their products after dealing with three FS-GT3C radios doing wierd things.

Me too. I bought the NB4 about a year ago on a whim, since the price was good and the pictures were nice.
I was floored when I opened the box.
Suddenly my trusty Sanwa looked and felt like it had been stuck in time for a decade too long!

so do you think nb4 is on par for performance with sanwa?

By performance do you mean like response speed? Then yes its definitely on par. Nobody is going to be able to tell the difference in .001-.005 second difference in speed. The feel may be slightly different between the two, but after a few laps and you are going to be tuned into your car hitting apex more than your radio being .002 seconds faster/slower.

Sanwa is a legendary name in the industry, so I think people tend to associate that with the best and either scared to try something different or immediately bash without touching another product. That's the nature of RC in general imo, people bash "x" new car before it even hits the race track because something in the pictures doesn't look like something their favorite brand has.

I never bash anything new. But neither do I automatically believe in or trust every new hype with all the "newest, biggest and best ever" claims. Do I believe it's a good radio? Yes. Especially for that price. Do I believe that it is as good as Sanwa? No idea honestly. Maybe. Do I believe it is waaaay better than anything Sanwa (or Futaba) have? No. I'd never blindly believe any one (or more) random people who I don't know, claiming things somewhere on the internet. As excellent a radio as this may be, it's been over-hyped by some people here, and just by that alone, I feel a certain level of distrust towards it. Many fanboys often don't realize that their over the top cheering can actually also hurt the product.

As a member of the MACH track that is original the homebase of Serpent, Sanwa has become the "standard" because Serpent does distribute Sanwa. So by definition my Futaba is crap. Also Sanwa is giving away many transmitters to top guys so the fanbase does follow their idols with the equipment.

More and more top drivers are now getting a Noble so I do believe it is a good transmitter but on the other hand because they get it they will take it and do not say a bad thing. Lets see in about 2 years if they still drive the Noble or went back to Sanwa.

Hey Everyone, long shot but has anyone went from a nb4 to a nb4 pro? I'm considering buying a new radio since I've used my nb4 for about 3 years. I have also heard through the grapevine that Sanwa servo frequencies aren't super friendly with the Noble radios, they operate on a separate frequency so there's a slight delay in responsiveness. I personally have Sanwa servos in my 1/12 and I've always complained about how slow the responsiveness of the servo is. After hearing that Mark Rheinard no longer uses Sanwa servos for this similar reason, I've started the quest to make this noble radio as best as it can be.

One of the things that makes Sanwa such a great product is their dynamic servo frequency, dead band adjustment and its ability to sync with the radio. I can't say a single bad thing about Sanwa, their products have won many national and world titles, but on the other hand I don't think FlySky is far off with their NB4 pro, we just need to find the best frequencies and compatibility for the NB4.

Currently, I use a Tekin T-120 & T-180, Protek 160T, all 3 servos seem fast but it's not completely in sync like the Sanwa systems are. I've looked into the MKS servos, they will be my next test servo for the FlySky responsiveness test. Back to my first question, if anyone has gone from the nb4 to the nb4 pro, have you noticed a responsiveness difference? Did it get better or worse? Is it like going from a Sanwa MT44 to an M17? It's easy to speculate and assume the NB4 Pro has the same internals with just a different touch screen but I'm a firm believer in data, it reveals all secrets. If nobody has ventured on this upgrade path then I'll suck it up and take one for the team after I can get rid of my TLR 22 5.0

I run nitro pro jtp ct1 2 3 rt2 and the 12scale sanwa servo iv never felt that ... Iv ran sanwa 20 plus yrs and never felt the need to by 200 $$ servos or felt I needed to be more connected to my car... I started to
Used the nb4 6 month after it came out same feeling and I love it because im that 1 that just cant pick up any remote ... but they changed how to slow down the servo speed so now it sucks from what I saw from other drivers.. I didn't like that so I didn't get the pro or update the interface of my sons nb4 ... no 1 I know likes it and I don't care to learn it when the 100 and down is just fine Dumb engineers always fing stuff up ...

Maybe it's different for black carpet and having enough grip to traction roll. We can feel everything in the cars when it comes to servos and input. I drive my friend's M17 with Sanwa servos and I feel like I'm in the driver's seat of the car and can feel the slightest wheel input directly on the track. It's not rocket science, we just need to find the right combination that works.

Try pro performance

NB4+
manual found
github.com/open-flysky/FLYSKY-ProductInformationDownload/blob/master/Transmitter/

“I can feel - literally feel - the difference”

The next time someone says that, you can safely take whatever else they say as hokum or conjecture.

The only thing they can “feel” is the wheel of the transmitter in their fingers – To my knowledge, there does not exist any system on the market that provides “literal” force feedback 2-way communication for transmission of motion signals. If there were, the resulting latency, with todays technology, would unlikely be able to provide the specifications needed to remain competitive in racing.

The “feel” they are claiming is a perceived response.

The average person, according to a quick Google search, has a hand/eye response time of 0.25 seconds (250ms).

If the cumulative time for a servo to respond to an action transmitted from your device is less than that, you will perceive a “feeling” that the servo/system as a whole, is very responsive.

News flash – almost everything that is available today, marketed for RC racing, is faster than your reflexes.

We are biologically incapable of responding faster than the millisecond differences of the product people claim that they can “feel”. Albeit, they may indeed perceive a difference. It is not felt.

The last time I perceived a REAL difference in product was a little over 20yrs ago when digital servos became readily available and compatible with our systems. The difference was actually demonstrated in my ability to get through a chicane on pace with everyone else - It was indeed impossible with an analog servo. I switched to a digital servo (a big deal for me then) and never looked back. Since then – I only notice the speed when there’s a problem.

The Noble NB4 and The Noble PRO are both very competitive systems.

Get whatever your budget allows and you will not be disappointed.