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choisan 07-27-2023 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Silverbullet555 (Post 16022056)
gigaplex and choisan thanks for being a guinea pig on these. Would love to find some lower priced FH5 for a few of the "non"essential cars as I'm sure others would too. Hopefully the voltage issue is simply a bad unit.

to be honest, the price difference of this clone to a sanwa original, say 493i, is just slightly half in some places elsewhere. i would go for the genuine for my next purchase as my servo is sanwa's PGS and i want to play around the SSL.

Silverbullet555 07-28-2023 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by choisan (Post 16022122)
to be honest, the price difference of this clone to a sanwa original, say 493i, is just slightly half in some places elsewhere. i would go for the genuine for my next purchase as my servo is sanwa's PGS and i want to play around the SSL.

I appreciate the honesty. Glad they are trying to figure it out. Sounds like there is still some work to do.

Where these fit in is in a few smaller 1/18th scale oval cars that can't run any of the SSL stuff. I've noticed (unrelated to the clone) that when switching from an FH4 receiver car to an FH5 receiver car on the radio, the 4 will have a blip of throttle if it is still on. The car is left on after a race to allow the fans to cool it while I am in another race. Anyway, id like to prevent that little blip by having all my oval cars on FH5 receivers.

Once again, thank you for being a tester and reporting back. I'll continue to follow.

b.wihardja 07-28-2023 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16021962)
I used my multimeter and observed voltage dips down to 5.5V before it cut out. The older receiver didn't cut out despite dipping to 5.4V. Dasmikro lists the operating voltage range as down to 3.5V so either it's failing to meet that, or the multimeter can't measure the spikes fast enough.

nothing related with the topic being discussed, but how much voltage should be supplied by the bec? Recently I dicovered that when I move the servo very quickly (with original sanwa rx472) the motor fan speed drops for a while and returns to normal, maybe the bec is weak or inadequate. I think this also answers about why my lap counter suddenly turning off

DirkW 07-28-2023 09:58 AM

Most BECs supply 6.0V nowadays. Often you can increase this up to around 7.2-7.4V for quicker and more powerful servo movements - but if your electronics are not rated for such higher voltage, they can get damaged (at least over time).

glennhl 07-28-2023 11:47 AM

I'd love to try one of these copy receivers, but I'd like to see some data that shows they are just as fast as stock Sanwa's. Does anyone have some data?

sangyue 07-28-2023 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by glennhl (Post 16022285)
I'd love to try one of these copy receivers, but I'd like to see some data that shows they are just as fast as stock Sanwa's. Does anyone have some data?

Normally if it is a clone, then it should be as fast as stock Sanwa's. If it is a redesigned(software) compatible receiver, then we need some test data...

choisan 07-29-2023 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by sangyue (Post 16022379)
Normally if it is a clone, then it should be as fast as stock Sanwa's. If it is a redesigned(software) compatible receiver, then we need some test data...

if it is a clone and talking about a "clone", it is not an identical clone, at least, the SSL with Sanwa PGS HR servo on FH5U is faulty. then someone may doubt if it is as fast as genuine.

sangyue 07-29-2023 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by choisan (Post 16022418)
if it is a clone and talking about a "clone", it is not an identical clone, at least, the SSL with Sanwa PGS HR servo on FH5U is faulty. then someone may doubt if it is as fast as genuine.

As I know in FH5U mode telemetry function and SSL port are all disabled. There is a supplementry manual from Sanwa official wesite. Below is the screen shot from page 2.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...0246aa5006.jpg

Link: SANWA
You can only find the pdf document in Japanese language, in English language I cann not find it.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...e486a14293.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...bcdb0c3650.jpg



choisan 07-29-2023 10:12 AM

well noted for the info, then i shall try SSL with FH5 SUR for the PGS Servo if i dont misinterpret the manual.

gigaplex 07-29-2023 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by choisan (Post 16022475)
well noted for the info, then i shall try SSL with FH5 SUR for the PGS Servo if i dont misinterpret the manual.

Have you had SSL working on a genuine Sanwa receiver?

choisan 07-30-2023 12:44 AM

Bench testing on Sanwa PGS servo
 

Originally Posted by gigaplex (Post 16022532)
Have you had SSL working on a genuine Sanwa receiver?

yes, i do have a genuine sanwa 491 by FH5, SSL, SUR moded PGS XRII in my Infinity IF18-2 and XR in my MRX6X, however, tried FH5, "SSL" SSR PGS HR didnt work, FH4T "SSL" SSR PGSHR didnt bind.
my self funded quality assurance for this "clone" in terms of Function Test , SIT and UAT are done which just ONLY works in FH5U, SXR PGS HR.
With that said, no real response test on the working mode for my existing HR servo can be made per my human perception.

above for reference and viewer discretion only.

jabroni racing 07-30-2023 08:09 PM

ran my close i got off amazon for $55 today, No Issues 4wd 13.5 buggy.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PG6651Q...roduct_details

gigaplex 08-14-2023 11:02 PM

Any other feedback from anyone trying the FH5 clones? My replacement unit was lost in transit, so it might be a while before I can try another.

Originally Posted by choisan (Post 16022591)
yes, i do have a genuine sanwa 491 by FH5, SSL, SUR moded PGS XRII in my Infinity IF18-2 and XR in my MRX6X, however, tried FH5, "SSL" SSR PGS HR didnt work, FH4T "SSL" SSR PGSHR didnt bind.
my self funded quality assurance for this "clone" in terms of Function Test , SIT and UAT are done which just ONLY works in FH5U, SXR PGS HR.
With that said, no real response test on the working mode for my existing HR servo can be made per my human perception.

above for reference and viewer discretion only.

FH4T won't bind, receivers support FH4 or FH5, not both.

sawzall 08-16-2023 10:04 AM

Had a chance to try out a DasMikro FHSS-5 receiver. Used it in FH5 mode will SSL with a PGS-CX2 servo and CODE10 worked as expected. I also tried it with SXR in FH5U mode and it also worked fine (I honestly can't tell the difference between SUR and SXR). I didn't experience any signal loss, clipping or other oddities. I also compared its range to a real Sanwa 492i, and it was pretty much the same. I haven't tried FH5U with the PGS-CX2 in the SSL port, but I'll try it over the weekend.

I'll still run original Sanwa receivers in my competition cars, but this looks like a nice alternative for bashers and some of my 'fun' chassis.

Marcos.J 08-16-2023 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by sawzall (Post 16026570)
Had a chance to try out a DasMikro FHSS-5 receiver. Used it in FH5 mode will SSL with a PGS-CX2 servo and CODE10 worked as expected. I also tried it with SXR in FH5U mode and it also worked fine (I honestly can't tell the difference between SUR and SXR). I didn't experience any signal loss, clipping or other oddities. I also compared its range to a real Sanwa 492i, and it was pretty much the same. I haven't tried FH5U with the PGS-CX2 in the SSL port, but I'll try it over the weekend.

I'll still run original Sanwa receivers in my competition cars, but this looks like a nice alternative for bashers and some of my 'fun' chassis.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...2249a7f2a.jpeg
I have been using the FH5 clone for a while it works just fine no issues with it


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