A Dying Hobby
#46
Tech Adept
"when the buggies took over"
Hate to say it, but that is the premier class of 1/10 offroad and always has been. SCTs are class killers and did their best to wipe out buggies a few years ago, but the buggies are back where they belong. Driving a SCT, especially 2wd, does nothing for your driving skills. Strap into a 2wd buggy for an immediate report card of how good you are.
Hate to say it, but that is the premier class of 1/10 offroad and always has been. SCTs are class killers and did their best to wipe out buggies a few years ago, but the buggies are back where they belong. Driving a SCT, especially 2wd, does nothing for your driving skills. Strap into a 2wd buggy for an immediate report card of how good you are.
are you kidding me? no class has brought more people into rc then sct!!!
it's still going strong in northern ohio where my outdoor track has
a full class of 4x4 sct every week 2wd can be hit or miss. 1/10 4x4
buggy is a bigger class than 2wd buggy.
depends where you live winter time indoors 1/10 buggy is big.
e-buggy and truggy are also popular here.
bigger races you will even see a class of nitro buggy.
#47
Tech Initiate
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY OUR HOBBY IS STRUGGLING, AND ITS NO SECRET PRICES FOR THESE R/CS CAN GET SKY HIGH, FOR A NEW XMAXX WITH CHARGER AND BATTERIES YOUR LOOKING AT A GRAND, SOME PEOPLE WITH LOW BUDGET INCOMES CANT AFFORD IT EVEN THOUGH THEY WISH THEY COULD. BUT YOU CAN BUY A HOOPTIE GROCERY GETTER CAR FOR A $1000, SO PRICES PLAY A PART IN IT TOO. I CANT EVEN BEGIN TO ADD UP HOW MUCH I HAVE INVESTED IN JUST ONE OF MY CARS. I WISH PRICES WAS CHEAPER ON SOME THINGS BUT THEN WHAT, THE COMPANIES WHO MANUFACTURE WOULD CRUMBLE, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. LOOK AT HOW RIPMAXX BOUGHT HPI. THESE COMPANIES JUST ARENT MAKING ENOUGH TO STAY ALIVE. ITS LIKE ALMOST A NO WIN SITUATION.
#49
THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY OUR HOBBY IS STRUGGLING, AND ITS NO SECRET PRICES FOR THESE R/CS CAN GET SKY HIGH, FOR A NEW XMAXX WITH CHARGER AND BATTERIES YOUR LOOKING AT A GRAND, SOME PEOPLE WITH LOW BUDGET INCOMES CANT AFFORD IT EVEN THOUGH THEY WISH THEY COULD. BUT YOU CAN BUY A HOOPTIE GROCERY GETTER CAR FOR A $1000, SO PRICES PLAY A PART IN IT TOO. I CANT EVEN BEGIN TO ADD UP HOW MUCH I HAVE INVESTED IN JUST ONE OF MY CARS. I WISH PRICES WAS CHEAPER ON SOME THINGS BUT THEN WHAT, THE COMPANIES WHO MANUFACTURE WOULD CRUMBLE, IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. LOOK AT HOW RIPMAXX BOUGHT HPI. THESE COMPANIES JUST ARENT MAKING ENOUGH TO STAY ALIVE. ITS LIKE ALMOST A NO WIN SITUATION.
not about price gouging on over rated products!...
That only kills the hobby for people!...100 % agree!...
#51
Club racing is dying here, particularly off road, what was a fun environment is now over-run by sponsored / paid drivers who have systematically infected the pit area like a plague of starved locusts, and with that come the lemmings who buy what Mr fancy T-Shirt says and the bullying that is directed at any voice not towing the line of these drivers and the powers that sit behind them lining their pockets.
Doing this sport/hobby with common sense makes it much more affordable with still the same results.
#52
You nailed it and it fits exactly to this.
As mentioned the big guys have many folowers who buy and do exactly the same as the big guy. If that means to replace gears and belts every 5 minutes they will do it. If these copycats think they can drive the same results as the top guy then go ahead. There is ony one difference... The top guy has sponsored parts to replace, the copycats have to buy them.
Doing this sport/hobby with common sense makes it much more affordable with still the same results.
As mentioned the big guys have many folowers who buy and do exactly the same as the big guy. If that means to replace gears and belts every 5 minutes they will do it. If these copycats think they can drive the same results as the top guy then go ahead. There is ony one difference... The top guy has sponsored parts to replace, the copycats have to buy them.
Doing this sport/hobby with common sense makes it much more affordable with still the same results.
with an engine that cost 1/2 of what the car cost!
The higher company's aren't focused on the younger gen's in that aspect an
its creating friction within the future kids that want to get into the hobby.
To me ,its biting themselves in the a$$ ,because its actually detouring
lower end families not to let their kids have that experience because it
cost too much.
People complain about clones an cheaper quality stuff an don't want to
see the real facts of why its like that!...
America needs to step up!...
#53
Its simple economics. When people have disposable income to burn they use that money for something they enjoy. The first thing to go when there is no disposable income is a hobby.
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
#54
Its simple economics. When people have disposable income to burn they use that money for something they enjoy. The first thing to go when there is no disposable income is a hobby.
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
#55
Tech Fanatic
are you kidding me? no class has brought more people into rc then sct!!!
it's still going strong in northern ohio where my outdoor track has
a full class of 4x4 sct every week 2wd can be hit or miss. 1/10 4x4
buggy is a bigger class than 2wd buggy.
depends where you live winter time indoors 1/10 buggy is big.
e-buggy and truggy are also popular here.
bigger races you will even see a class of nitro buggy.
it's still going strong in northern ohio where my outdoor track has
a full class of 4x4 sct every week 2wd can be hit or miss. 1/10 4x4
buggy is a bigger class than 2wd buggy.
depends where you live winter time indoors 1/10 buggy is big.
e-buggy and truggy are also popular here.
bigger races you will even see a class of nitro buggy.
#56
We lost an indoor track... carpet off-road. Most fun I've had in RC for a long time. I think the track was lost, not because of interest/participation, but for lack of management. I think that's true more broadly speaking. Its a big undertaking to develop a track... not anyone can do it.
#57
Tech Fanatic
In conclusion, dying, nah. finding its level I think is more realistic
#58
Tech Regular
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Its simple economics. When people have disposable income to burn they use that money for something they enjoy. The first thing to go when there is no disposable income is a hobby.
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
If you think this hobby is dying i think you're living in your own little bubble and may want to get out and take a look around.
From when i started in the mid seventies the hobby has evolved greatly and the actual costs have stayed proportionally to the rate of inflation. If you raced in the late eighties into the nineties the costs are far less in electric racing now than they used to be. It used to be a niche, rich mans hobby but has definitely become more main stream then ever. How can Traxxas afford to spend the kind of money on advertising like they do if there wasn't a source of income?
We are lucky here in the Austin, Texas area because we have an old school racer who understands and enjoys the sport and has spent a lot of his own money to create a special facility that is second to none anywhere in the world. If everyone involved in RC Off Road could have a track like we do i think you would change your mind about the health of the hobby. If you build it and do it right, the people will show up,
#59
Tech Adept
Hmmm. Used to live in your neck of the woods. SCT is still going good, that's great. My SCT 4x4 hasn't moved in over a year. Everybody out here has moved to 1/8 buggy. I have an ebuggy and a nitro. I miss running sct but there is a weekend race in Red Deer this weekend and I think there are 3 4x4 entered. It's just too much to run 3 cars. Keep it going
hey buster8787, did you run at medina?
1/8 buggy is the biggest class here outdoors too.
haha, summer is only so long you gotta enjoy it!!
i run 3 class alot 4x4 corr, 1/8 buggy and truggy.
sometimes i'll run 2wd corr or 1/10 4x4 buggy.
#60
Tech Fanatic
Check out our track at RC Gears on that tube site.