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Old 09-11-2022, 10:24 PM
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i have a stupid question, are those cylinder and piston sets inter-usable

1. euro in euro 2 crankcase
1.1 euro in shimo 2 crank case
2 euro 2 in euro crank case
2.2 euro 2 in shimo crank case
3 shimo 2 in euro crank case
4. shimo2 in euro 2 crank case
5. 2104 in shimo 2 crank case
6. 2104 in euro 2 crank case
7. 2104 in euro crank case

wonder if anyone has this info? cheers
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:13 AM
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i have a stupid question, are those cylinder and piston sets inter-usable

1. euro in euro 2 crankcase
1.1 euro in shimo 2 crank case
2 euro 2 in euro crank case
2.2 euro 2 in shimo crank case
3 shimo 2 in euro crank case
4. shimo2 in euro 2 crank case
5. 2104 in shimo 2 crank case
6. 2104 in euro 2 crank case
7. 2104 in euro crank case

wonder if anyone has this info? cheers
All the sleeves of the R21 engines are interchangeable.
The Shimo2 and Euro2 have some extra lubrification porting for which you need the Shimo2 crankcase(which is the same for the Euro2).

Hope this has cleared things for you.

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Old 09-12-2022, 12:18 AM
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I was told the Hasi has a slight different diameter sleeves and so parts are not interchangeable.
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Old 09-12-2022, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Roelof View Post
I was told the Hasi has a slight different diameter sleeves and so parts are not interchangeable.
Hasi was not in the listing.
I do not think OS does this, unless the qty's Hasi takes are very important which I doubt. But since I do not know for sure maybe somebody who has a Hasi measures the outside diameter of the sleeve and so we can clear this.
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Old 09-12-2022, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by VS_Rody View Post
Hasi was not in the listing.
I do not think OS does this, unless the qty's Hasi takes are very important which I doubt. But since I do not know for sure maybe somebody who has a Hasi measures the outside diameter of the sleeve and so we can clear this.
A friend who is doing some OS (based) engines had several models side by side and he did notice that, maybe more like a tolerance thing.
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Old 09-12-2022, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VS_Rody View Post
Hasi was not in the listing.
I do not think OS does this, unless the qty's Hasi takes are very important which I doubt. But since I do not know for sure maybe somebody who has a Hasi measures the outside diameter of the sleeve and so we can clear this.
The Hasi is not based on the Shimo 2 or Euro 2. It does not have the extra oil ports. I can measure later.
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Originally Posted by VS_Rody View Post
All the sleeves of the R21 engines are interchangeable.
The Shimo2 and Euro2 have some extra lubrification porting for which you need the Shimo2 crankcase(which is the same for the Euro2).

Hope this has cleared things for you.
ok, thanks
1. then may i use euro 2 or shimo 2 cylinder piston set in some models with inner head without inner o-ring?
2. with that said, i can just pick to buy either euro2/shimo2 for euro2/shimon2 crankcase
3. how about euro2/shimo2 cp set into 2104 (even the crankcase has no lubrication trim inside)?

thanks so much, you are appreciated
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Originally Posted by Michael_T View Post
The Hasi is not based on the Shimo 2 or Euro 2. It does not have the extra oil ports. I can measure later.
oh, i know that now, then hasi is probably based on the euro or 2103 crankcase, the previous model
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Originally Posted by choisan View Post
ok, thanks
1. then may i use euro 2 or shimo 2 cylinder piston set in some models with inner head without inner o-ring?
2. with that said, i can just pick to buy either euro2/shimo2 for euro2/shimon2 crankcase
3. how about euro2/shimo2 cp set into 2104 (even the crankcase has no lubrication trim inside)?

thanks so much, you are appreciated
1) Yes you can but the extra oil ports will not be of any use.
2) Yes, you can also buy the Shimo2 or Euro2 crankcase.
3) Yes you can but the extra oil ports will not be of any use.
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Originally Posted by VS_Rody View Post
1) Yes you can but the extra oil ports will not be of any use.
2) Yes, you can also buy the Shimo2 or Euro2 crankcase.
3) Yes you can but the extra oil ports will not be of any use.
that means with or without inner o-ring is not sleeve dependent. it is the hear sink which has circular o-ring guide, to determine to use o-ring or not
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Originally Posted by choisan View Post
that means with or without inner o-ring is not sleeve dependent. it is the hear sink which has circular o-ring guide, to determine to use o-ring or not
If you speak about the o-ring in between the crankcase and the underhead, this also you can use with out without on any R21 type crankcase.
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The extra cooling/lubrication holes can be made to work with grinding some slots in the sleeve.

I have made even some of those ports on my 5 port R21


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