Cyrul's Break in Procedures
#91
guys, i have just read this thread, and here are some questions as m a newbie, trying to break in my engine. (hope u guys dun mind if they are stupid questions)
"Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn and open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there" - how long to hold there before u open the HSN until engine flame out?
"From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle" - do we need to cool down the engine before starting it? also do u guys face this problem of stuck piston? coz last time when we break in our engine, we all have to use a philip screw driver to pry on the flywheel to get the piston down. and this has caused damages to the flywheel teeth. may i also ask if this is the process where the piston get scratches? how should we correct this problem?
"Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down and allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes" - full throttle all the way for 3 tanks to finish? really no need to release the throttle? and no need to cool down the engine between tanks? from here, there is no need to adjust the HSN? and no need to make the engine flame out?
may i know how much time is required for breaking in a brand new engine, rite from the start to race speed tuned? i am really interested to try out this WOT break in coz previously i idle 2 tanks, run at low speed around the track for 3 tanks, then WOT at starter box, closing the HSN till it get really lean, then richen it down (still WOT), and i found that idling and low speed running is really no useless. so i await some pro advise here. thanks
"Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn and open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there" - how long to hold there before u open the HSN until engine flame out?
"From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle" - do we need to cool down the engine before starting it? also do u guys face this problem of stuck piston? coz last time when we break in our engine, we all have to use a philip screw driver to pry on the flywheel to get the piston down. and this has caused damages to the flywheel teeth. may i also ask if this is the process where the piston get scratches? how should we correct this problem?
"Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down and allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes" - full throttle all the way for 3 tanks to finish? really no need to release the throttle? and no need to cool down the engine between tanks? from here, there is no need to adjust the HSN? and no need to make the engine flame out?
may i know how much time is required for breaking in a brand new engine, rite from the start to race speed tuned? i am really interested to try out this WOT break in coz previously i idle 2 tanks, run at low speed around the track for 3 tanks, then WOT at starter box, closing the HSN till it get really lean, then richen it down (still WOT), and i found that idling and low speed running is really no useless. so i await some pro advise here. thanks
#92
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Originally Posted by uniquexme
guys, i have just read this thread, and here are some questions as m a newbie, trying to break in my engine. (hope u guys dun mind if they are stupid questions)
"Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn and open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there" - how long to hold there before u open the HSN until engine flame out?
"From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle" - do we need to cool down the engine before starting it? also do u guys face this problem of stuck piston? coz last time when we break in our engine, we all have to use a philip screw driver to pry on the flywheel to get the piston down. and this has caused damages to the flywheel teeth. may i also ask if this is the process where the piston get scratches? how should we correct this problem?
"Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down and allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes" - full throttle all the way for 3 tanks to finish? really no need to release the throttle? and no need to cool down the engine between tanks? from here, there is no need to adjust the HSN? and no need to make the engine flame out?
may i know how much time is required for breaking in a brand new engine, rite from the start to race speed tuned? i am really interested to try out this WOT break in coz previously i idle 2 tanks, run at low speed around the track for 3 tanks, then WOT at starter box, closing the HSN till it get really lean, then richen it down (still WOT), and i found that idling and low speed running is really no useless. so i await some pro advise here. thanks
"Start by opening the top end needle 1 full turn and open the carburetor to full throttle and hold it there" - how long to hold there before u open the HSN until engine flame out?
"From here, close the top end needle ¼ turn and restart the engine again running it at full throttle" - do we need to cool down the engine before starting it? also do u guys face this problem of stuck piston? coz last time when we break in our engine, we all have to use a philip screw driver to pry on the flywheel to get the piston down. and this has caused damages to the flywheel teeth. may i also ask if this is the process where the piston get scratches? how should we correct this problem?
"Run the engine full throttle for 3 tanks and shut the engine down and allow the engine to cool for 15-30 minutes" - full throttle all the way for 3 tanks to finish? really no need to release the throttle? and no need to cool down the engine between tanks? from here, there is no need to adjust the HSN? and no need to make the engine flame out?
may i know how much time is required for breaking in a brand new engine, rite from the start to race speed tuned? i am really interested to try out this WOT break in coz previously i idle 2 tanks, run at low speed around the track for 3 tanks, then WOT at starter box, closing the HSN till it get really lean, then richen it down (still WOT), and i found that idling and low speed running is really no useless. so i await some pro advise here. thanks
The three tank portion, yes, run the car full throttle. You will see that when the engine is full throttle with such a rich setting, it's like the engine is at a slight high idle but spitting raw/wet fuel. This part is very quick as you will go through a tank of fuel within 1-2 minutes.
The LSN and idle screws are very important.
Trust me, his method has worked just fine as the instructions stand. He's a great guy and if you have any questions, E-mail or wait for him to reply here. When using this method I was able to use one glow plug per gallon of fuel. Probably not a great idea, but I broke the engine in with the same plug!

His engine clean up tutorial works great too. Actually, all of his nitro tech works great.
Last edited by performula; 07-24-2006 at 08:58 PM.
#95
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Originally Posted by Corse-R
Wrong! A temp gun is an artificial necesity, each engine is different and they run at 100% at different temperatures. No matter if they are two engines of the same model, they will run at different temperatures.

For instance: I knew my engine was too rich to be burning glow plugs on my other thread - just couldn't figure out what it was.
#96
Originally Posted by performula
It's like the engine has a sharp echo when lean and the heat has a smell.


#100
Originally Posted by uniquexme
guys, may i ask why there are still have scratches on the area between the top and 2 groove lines of the piston after following cyrul's WOT break in method?
#102
Originally Posted by Nitro$junkie
is this way ok for novarossi micro cast pistions
or do they need special treatment??
or do they need special treatment??
#103
Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
do cyrul"s thing for the first two tanks than let it cool,then again for two,then let it cool,then just throw it on the track and run it rich and work up to max power slowly.dont run a micro cast piston to much on the box it will wear out.
#105
ok im now sold on this method,i just ran my motor at the track and oh my its the fastest thig iv ever run, but do it slowly work your way up to max power, this works,the con rod has no play on it at all not like my other motors i had in the past and iv had a bunch.lets say im very happy and lets see what happens later.



