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SOLOARTIST 702 02-28-2012 09:02 PM

ORCAN
 
any story on the orcan brand motors just curious i know their from SMI they look novarossi based

stefan 02-29-2012 04:55 AM

Yes, the are Nova based. The GT7 is basically the same as the Kangaroo.

It becomes interesting if you get the MH (Michael Heinrich) version.

Michael really knows how to get those engines haulin' and still have excellent fuel economy.

The same goes for the .12's

SOLOARTIST 702 02-29-2012 08:02 AM

who can get them in the states

DS Motorsport 02-29-2012 08:48 AM

I can ship them without vat, if I'm not mistaking they are not yet imported to the us.

Until recently the engines were only sold by German and Austrian shops.
Because of the performance and demand for the engines Orcan just started to expand outside these countries.

beebone 03-01-2012 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by SOLOARTIST 702 (Post 10398341)
any story on the orcan brand motors just curious i know their from SMI they look novarossi based

Orcan somehow get the good position in some European races.
But not much people distribute this engine, as well as, I can't buy GT7 when I was in Berlin because the on-road class is not popular there. T___T

beebone 03-01-2012 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport (Post 10400342)
I can ship them without vat, if I'm not mistaking they are not yet imported to the us.

Until recently the engines were only sold by German and Austrian shops.
Because of the performance and demand for the engines Orcan just started to expand outside these countries.

Yes, Hard to find this engine.

SOLOARTIST 702 06-21-2012 08:05 AM

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now just running it in

SOLOARTIST 702 07-13-2012 01:06 PM

after racing the airtronics race the motor seems to be working well good power band i had other issues electronics wich gave me problems but will give full report after xray challenge next month :nod::nod:

HHH 03-14-2013 02:12 AM

New GT3C
 
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Excited!!

SOLOARTIST 702 03-19-2013 05:08 AM

this is the cream of the crop really good MICHAEL H is good

kyosho malaysia 03-19-2013 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by HHH (Post 11929002)
Excited!!

what excited,performance?
how is the power band like?
what is the crankshaft diameter,looks like N12T1 based.

HHH 03-20-2013 01:00 AM


Originally Posted by kyosho malaysia (Post 11947694)
what excited,performance?
how is the power band like?
what is the crankshaft diameter,looks like N12T1 based.

Hey Fluke,

I am exited for many reasons.

Excited because the work and finish on the engine is nice to look at and appreciate. Excited because I ran the "S" version at the WC and it worked great, better than 5 other engines I tried on that track. Excited because the S version does not have a lot of top end but the "C" version in the picture above is supposed to have more mid and high end power and torque. Excited because the C won the Euros and the S was a finalist at the WC. Excited because unlike other engines--I am pretty certain my C and S are the same ones that the pros used in those big races. Excited because at the last race at the small UTM track I was able to run 7.5 mins in qualifying without refueling. Excited because the bearings and conrods are the older versions and are cheaper to replace. excited because the crank is 11.5mm in diameter which is said to get better fuel mileage than the newer 11.9 diameter crank. Excited because both the company owner and modifier are open to and available for questions and support via email or in person if they are at your track. Excited because I love engines and count on great engines to compensate for my very average driving.

There are probably a few other reasons I can't think of right now.

As to your Qs, the S version's power is very strong out of corners into the mid medium range. The C is supposed to have more mid and high range power. I will let you know about the C once I have it race ready and tested.

The engine base is the Nova LL3, but with a longer stroke. Most of the base part numbers are similar except for the button head, the carb, cosmetic items and of course, the mods and tuning.

If you want to try one of these engines next time you come to Singapore let me know. I will let you use one but I will do the tuning.

Sam

SOLOARTIST 702 03-20-2013 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by HHH (Post 11951302)
Hey Fluke,

I am exited for many reasons.

Excited because the work and finish on the engine is nice to look at and appreciate. Excited because I ran the "S" version at the WC and it worked great, better than 5 other engines I tried on that track. Excited because the S version does not have a lot of top end but the "C" version in the picture above is supposed to have more mid and high end power and torque. Excited because the C won the Euros and the S was a finalist at the WC. Excited because unlike other engines--I am pretty certain my C and S are the same ones that the pros used in those big races. Excited because at the last race at the small UTM track I was able to run 7.5 mins in qualifying without refueling. Excited because the bearings and conrods are the older versions and are cheaper to replace. excited because the crank is 11.5mm in diameter which is said to get better fuel mileage than the newer 11.9 diameter crank. Excited because both the company owner and modifier are open to and available for questions and support via email or in person if they are at your track. Excited because I love engines and count on great engines to compensate for my very average driving.

There are probably a few other reasons I can't think of right now.

As to your Qs, the S version's power is very strong out of corners into the mid medium range. The C is supposed to have more mid and high range power. I will let you know about the C once I have it race ready and tested.

The engine base is the Nova LL3, but with a longer stroke. Most of the base part numbers are similar except for the button head, the carb, cosmetic items and of course, the mods and tuning.

If you want to try one of these engines next time you come to Singapore let me know. I will let you use one but I will do the tuning.

Sam

correct in the comments on the s great torque and mid i just sent mine back for michael to look at i really am pleased with the performance on this engine i finally found a motor comparable to the jp but with better fuel mileage cheers

HHH 03-20-2013 06:09 AM

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Here are some pics from a while back comparing the GT3-S to the JP 3PL and the nova LL3

HHH 03-20-2013 06:13 AM

Another

HHH 03-20-2013 06:15 AM

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HHH 03-20-2013 06:17 AM

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HHH 03-20-2013 06:19 AM

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Pic4

HHH 03-20-2013 06:21 AM

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HHH 03-20-2013 06:23 AM

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GT3S vs LL3

HHH 03-20-2013 06:25 AM

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Again

HHH 03-20-2013 06:29 AM

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HHH 03-20-2013 06:44 AM

I'll put up some of the GT3C soon. Look best when new, come from MH so shinny they will almost hurt your eyes:)

HHH 03-20-2013 06:58 AM

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more

kyosho malaysia 03-20-2013 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by HHH (Post 11951836)
Pic x

Sam,i don't think it is LL3 based,should be N12T1 base on the sleeve and the crankshaft looks like.
can you show some photo for the inner crankcase and piston.
tq

HHH 03-20-2013 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by kyosho malaysia (Post 11951947)
Sam,i don't think it is LL3 based,should be N12T1 base on the sleeve and the crankshaft looks like.
can you show some photo for the inner crankcase and piston.
tq

I think you are right Fluke.

Any idea (anyone) what the LR on the side of the crankcase stands for?

HHH 03-20-2013 09:55 PM

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Case vs ll3

HHH 03-20-2013 09:57 PM

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Case 2

HHH 03-20-2013 09:58 PM

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Case 3

HHH 03-21-2013 12:21 AM

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Side that says LR - Anyone know why or what this means?

HHH 03-21-2013 12:22 AM

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Pistons Orcan on left, LL3 on right

stefan 03-21-2013 12:41 AM


Originally Posted by HHH (Post 11955102)
Side that says LR - Anyone know why or what this means?

This engine is based on the Novarossi N12LR3, which dates back to 2006 or so.

HHH 03-21-2013 12:57 AM


Originally Posted by stefan (Post 11955123)
This engine is based on the Novarossi N12LR3, which dates back to 2006 or so.

Thanks Stefan!

HHH 03-21-2013 01:07 AM

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More pics of the GT3C for everyone with too much time on their hands or not able to watch their lap times because of work, babysitting, weather, etc.

HHH 03-21-2013 01:12 AM

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2006? That was a long time ago. Can think a lot into this.

HHH 03-21-2013 01:13 AM

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kyosho malaysia 03-21-2013 06:23 AM

Sam,thanks for sharing

DS Motorsport 03-21-2013 05:59 PM

For the ones interested in the Orcan engines, I currently have the following offer:

http://www.capricornrc.nl/Webwinkel-...combo-set.html

The price shown includes 21% of sale tax, this will be deducted if you're located outside of the EU.

Rebellion 05-27-2013 01:41 AM

which is the working temperature of this engine?

HHH 05-27-2013 04:08 AM


Originally Posted by Rebellion (Post 12193680)
which is the working temperature of this engine?

110-125C


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