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Old 11-09-2011, 04:05 PM   #91
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Phil.... remember this thread you started? http://www.rctech.net/forum/nitro-ro...re-prices.html
What up pooh I remember and I still feel the same way. Tires motors too much money even with discounts. But my choice is to run what I like. I like novarossi. Even if I didn't have any discount I'd run them
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:08 PM   #92
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Your paying less and getting less. The thing is your the distributors buddy so your really payin less. Lol
Bad example Phil Im also friends with your distributor & with a lot of other distributor so what's your point My cash is just like your's
Friends are friends but bussiness is bussiness don't assume what u don't know
But I understand your sponsored & gonna represent your sponsor which is cool

I guess your still upset with our last conversation over the phone[/QUOTE]

My point was I like novarossi better then picco And I feel a plain Jane plus 35
Is better than a picco.

Lol means laugh out loud.
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Picco engine really good engine. But not in same league as novarossi. If I had to chose between a picco 21 and a plus 35 steel bearing I'd take the latter.

And as for the pts tuned definately you get what your paying for in power and reliabilty. And technology.
In the past I would agree with you but not today. The new Piccos are the real deal while the Novas are still mostly good but I'm seeing far more duds than I used to from them.

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Kangaroo won nats last year. Novarossi won pe worlds worlds and this years nats. As well as a long list of others. A plus 35 steel bearing motor under 400 bucks is beastly. And new kangaroos are 329 or so. Another solid motor.

Your paying less and getting less. The thing is your the distributors buddy so your really payin less. Lol
Name one world class driver that was running a Picco at this years nats. I can't think of any. Scotty Gray made the TC podium with a Picco but every other top driver was running Nova and driver makes all the difference. My picco was not outpowered by anyone. Only the driver and set-up sucked. As for Paolo, he could have won that race with a five year old test mule of a motor. Everyone else was trying to run fast and they destroyed themselves, Paolo was the only one that drove a smooth and trouble free race. He didn't win it on HP.
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Bad example Phil Im also friends with your distributor & with a lot of other distributor so what's your point My cash is just like your's
Friends are friends but bussiness is bussiness don't assume what u don't know
But I understand your sponsored & gonna represent your sponsor which is cool

I guess your still upset with our last conversation over the phone
I was joking I guess bad timing for my humor. Our last convo on the picco you were gonna sell me the price was 40 bucks higher than rc mart if that's what you mean.[/QUOTE]

No one has control on overseas pricing it is was it is
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Bad example Phil Im also friends with your distributor & with a lot of other distributor so what's your point My cash is just like your's
Friends are friends but bussiness is bussiness don't assume what u don't know
But I understand your sponsored & gonna represent your sponsor which is cool

I guess your still upset with our last conversation over the phone
My point was I like novarossi better then picco And I feel a plain Jane plus 35
Is better than a picco.

Lol means laugh out loud.[/QUOTE]
You never know until you try 1
I ran Maxpower for 2 seasons awesome motors then went to Nova Flash for 1/2 season until the pricing soared liked they were using metals not from this earth to justify then picco & i have not had any regrets
My point is if picco was not available in the U.S. think about it
Were we being price gauged
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My point is if picco was not available in the U.S. think about it
Were we being price gauged
In some ways I think we were but also remember that the euro debt crisis has caused the euro to fall pretty hard recently. That helps.
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[QUOTE=wingracer;9890678]In the past I would agree with you but not today. The new Piccos are the real deal while the Novas are still mostly good but I'm seeing far more duds than I used to from them.



Name one world class driver that was running a Picco at this years nats. I can't think of any.

Hey Sean I'm not saying this motors no good. The guy that finished fifth in the a main ran xray and picco power. Was very fast

I wanted to run this engine after seeing it the first time It has power top bottom etc. I'm glad I went with the new nova stuff as well as the plus 35 steel bearing for me that's all I've ever ran was nova stuff. Just my opinion
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The Market will determine the price of everything. Novarossi set prices they felt they could sell their engines at and some people bought them, others spent their money where they felt it be better spent.

We have a choice to buy something or not. Again, I'm cool with nova prices and I'm cool with Picco prices. If either company goes to far with their product, WE the MARKET have the right to vote with our dollars. They WILL get the point rather it be their price or their quality.

If we try to control them by telling them what prices they should sell their products at we will all lose.

In the end, the market has the final say.
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In some ways I think we were but also remember that the euro debt crisis has caused the euro to fall pretty hard recently. That helps.

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I think of all the variables including the huge Nova team they have could that be a reason the consumer has to pay for it or just another strategy to not loose market share for a market that has not increased but is loosing steam increase pricing when the economy is bad so many less drivers racing cause it is getting to expensive then of course they need to lower there prices to make way for the 12/13 line

If the Euro downgrades it will help the U.S. dollar
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The Market will determine the price of everything. Novarossi set prices they felt they could sell their engines at and some people bought them, others spent their money where they felt it be better spent.

We have a choice to buy something or not. Again, I'm cool with nova prices and I'm cool with Picco prices. If either company goes to far with their product, WE the MARKET have the right to vote with our dollars. They WILL get the point rather it be their price or their quality.

If we try to control them by telling them what prices they should sell their products at we will all lose.

In the end, the market has the final say.
Well said sir! I voted for IDM/Picco
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Well said sir! I voted for IDM/Picco
Thank you sir. I voted too, Desotoracing/Novarossi

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I voted for Frosted Strawberry PoP Tarts
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I'd buy that for a dollar
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The Market will determine the price of everything. Novarossi set prices they felt they could sell their engines at and some people bought them, others spent their money where they felt it be better spent.

We have a choice to buy something or not. Again, I'm cool with nova prices and I'm cool with Picco prices. If either company goes to far with their product, WE the MARKET have the right to vote with our dollars. They WILL get the point rather it be their price or their quality.

If we try to control them by telling them what prices they should sell their products at we will all lose.

In the end, the market has the final say.
Remember a while back when Ernie Provetti had the exclusives for Sanyo and panasonic batteries in the US and prices went through the roof?

GP came along with a great product, broke the monopoly and battery prices came down to a reasonable level.

That's what going to happen now with engines.

The Torque rage of engines is almost entirely new and has little to do with the EVO4 series and it comes very close to NR.
We ran two Torques the entire season and other than initial bearing problems they were awesome.

Considering the new EFRA rules for 2013, I guess alot of racers will look towards Picco.

Also, some major players over here will be switching brands
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