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Team Kamikaze 02-26-2010 06:57 AM

Welcome to the world of "Frankenstein" :batman:

SOLOARTIST 702 02-26-2010 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Team Kamikaze (Post 7059912)
Welcome to the world of "Frankenstein" :batman:

lol!

HoboShop 02-26-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Team Kamikaze (Post 7059912)
Welcome to the world of "Frankenstein" :batman:

Come on Sam it doesn't have to be pretty just as long as it works and it's fast. Shake and bake!!!!!!!!!!

Roelof 02-26-2010 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by senna555 (Post 7059542)
Seems to be alot of jpr03 talk and I had a couple of questions that I could not get an answer.

However when I look at r9/r7 I can not find similar nova crank or p/s set. Is it based of 35 plus?

All Nova (based) sleeves have an outside diameter of 19.5mm and will fit in any Nova based engine. I know RB is the only one with the location-pin in the upper edge placed on the other side but with a dremel a small sleeve is simple made to place the cilinder in the right way. Also the crankpin of RB is a tiny bit bigger than Novarossi but it is obvious you should use the conrod fitting the crankshaft..
So far I have seen are all intakes are almost the same. OK there are some minor differences in timings but there is no one that will give a bad running engine.

The only big difference you will find is the thickness of the upper edge on the cilinder, that edge can be 1.5mm or 2mm so you have to be sure the real head clearance is set to 0.6~0.7mm.
Other difference is the height of the exhaust port, normally for an onroad engine that is arround 7mm (from BDC to closing) but with the 35+ it is lower giving a better bottom power.

All crankshafts have almost the same timings so I expect no real issues.

I have puzzled some engines together with several parts (keeping piston with its sleeve) and all were running OK.

So yes, if you want a replacement P/S set for your expensive engine you can choose a cheaper one like the Kangaro, 321 or even N21-7T

Roelof 02-27-2010 03:38 PM

This evening I was busy fittng a 35+ sleeve into an old S21 crankcase of a 2003 JP Kangaroo. As mentioned in my previous post there are sleeves with a 2mm edge (like the 35+) and with a 1.5mm edge (my old JP Kangaroo).

Taking a look into the exhaust it was clear the sleeve did not fell deep enough, messuring the exhaust it came up to 7.6mm which does give me prove the sleeve is exactly placed 0.5mm to high.
I know the exhaust hight of 7.6mm will work as a GRP P/S set into a Nova crankcase came up to 7.7mm.
Only the intake raised by 0.5mm could be to much having influence on the consumption. But hey, I will try this for fun.

To make this fit right ypu have to make the edge smaller with a milling machie and in the other way you can fill up the under edge of the sleeve with shimrings.

sheeley 02-27-2010 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 7066067)
This evening I was busy fittng a 35+ sleeve into an old S21 crankcase of a 2003 JP Kangaroo. As mentioned in my previous post there are sleeves with a 2mm edge (like the 35+) and with a 1.5mm edge (my old JP Kangaroo).

Taking a look into the exhaust it was clear the sleeve did not fell deep enough, messuring the exhaust it came up to 7.6mm which does give me prove the sleeve is exactly placed 0.5mm to high.
I know the exhaust hight of 7.6mm will work as a GRP P/S set into a Nova crankcase came up to 7.7mm.
Only the intake raised by 0.5mm could be to much having influence on the consumption. But hey, I will try this for fun.

To make this fit right ypu have to make the edge smaller with a milling machie and in the other way you can fill up the under edge of the sleeve with shimrings.


Did you buy the under shims or make them?

Team-RTR 02-27-2010 11:43 PM

Hey guys,

Took my mates JP eagle apart for him and we noticed some scratching on the bottom of the conrod and the back plate, is this something should be worried about? if so what is the best way to cure the problem?

Roelof 02-28-2010 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by sheeley (Post 7067312)
Did you buy the under shims or make them?

I have played with undershims to raise sleeve for more performance and dremeled out a headshim to make it fit.


Originally Posted by Team-RTR (Post 7067634)
Hey guys,

Took my mates JP eagle apart for him and we noticed some scratching on the bottom of the conrod and the back plate, is this something should be worried about? if so what is the best way to cure the problem?

Scratches on the backplate made by the rod is normal

Team-RTR 02-28-2010 11:57 PM

Also we need to replace the conrod in the JP eagle and we have noticed the part no. is the same as the nova plus 12-3 conrod, aside from an "F" at the front of the JP part no. is it actually a different conrod to the plus 12-3(possible knife edging?). if it is different will it affect performance drastically by putting in the standard rod?

fdjizm 03-02-2010 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by Team-RTR (Post 7072407)
Also we need to replace the conrod in the JP eagle and we have noticed the part no. is the same as the nova plus 12-3 conrod, aside from an "F" at the front of the JP part no. is it actually a different conrod to the plus 12-3(possible knife edging?). if it is different will it affect performance drastically by putting in the standard rod?

JP engines are manufactured by novarossi then modified by JP. check out the stroke, chances are it's the exact rod you need.

Team-RTR 03-03-2010 12:44 AM


Originally Posted by fdjizm (Post 7078849)
JP engines are manufactured by novarossi then modified by JP. check out the stroke, chances are it's the exact rod you need.

i know stroke/size is the same as its basically the same part no. but the JP rod has an F infront of the part no. I know back in the days when JP just modded Novas the conrods were knife edged etc.

silverM3 03-04-2010 02:27 PM

what is the part number for the conrod or flash .12 3 port tuned?

Is it the same as the 353 09 conrod? novarossi 7604?

emancipation007 03-06-2010 11:26 AM

Ebay
 
Where did you buy your nova rossi flash engines from.I seen a guy on ebay selling them brand new for 540.00 do you guys think it is safe

mc_chofo 03-06-2010 11:35 AM

hi to everyone, i hope anyone could help me clarifying this, i just remove and reinstall my engine bearings, but i'm having troubles with it, with the tuning, so i'm wondering if theres a chance that if the bearings are not 100% align the engine could has tuning issues?

do any of you know if this could be a reson so the engine wont tune at all?

thanx

Jamie Corrado 03-06-2010 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by emancipation007 (Post 7099297)
Where did you buy your nova rossi flash engines from.I seen a guy on ebay selling them brand new for 540.00 do you guys think it is safe

absolutehobbyz.com has them in stock for very good price.


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