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Ryan41 06-24-2007 02:26 AM

Motor ran ok today...apart from its 4 minute run time and numerous flame outs in the A-main..managed to get 4th..

JP Eagle has been ordered..hopefully I'll have more luck with that motor..and try and get this MRT Ninja running decent...

wallyedmonds 06-24-2007 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by kreamUNO (Post 3425144)
cool, how fast do you think it is well tuned and proper tuned? what pipe are you using? and can it outrun a damn os speed2 or os tz 5port?

pipe ninja
and i had an os and the ninja is way faster.:D

wallyedmonds 06-24-2007 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by HarKonnenD (Post 3425163)
Yeah kinda the results I was expecting.:confused: I'm gonna go back to 20% and stay with Byrons or try out Rocket Science.

you'll love it
just a note , i found with this motor the LSN and idle are very sensitive to adjustments so i think thats why its easier to get a good tune with 20%.

Corse-R 06-24-2007 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan41 (Post 3421418)
Gave the new Ninja RO1T a real go today...and all I can say is im dissapointed...It's good down low..but up top it struggles... Got a big race meet tomorrow..and I'm seriously considering putting my RO1A back in..

Plus side is - head stays cool as!!

Will be interesting tomorrow too see how it goes..

If it's still got nothing,..might buy the new JP?

Uhm... the R01-T should be quick as a raped ape, I suspect you're having a tunning problem with it and lack of break-in. Seen one and is... BALLISTIC. In fact, the driver s*ited their pants on the rostrum and put a 8mm restrictor on it to calm the beast.

There's big chances that you haven't finished the break-in, don't rush it, if you have a R01a at hand completely broken-in use it and you'll put the MRT when it decides to finish the break-in.


Originally Posted by Nitro$junkie (Post 3421448)
What pipe where you running

I noticed that my RO1A had good bottom but lacked the top compared to the Nova's i think I try a short header and see if it improves

With the Ninja 2053, go with the short manifold, long manifold is almost useless... :confused:

kreamUNO 06-24-2007 10:52 AM

i'm not really sure what's the best pipe combo with the t01a, what are you guys running? i need some suggestions.

ty, cheers.

Ryan41 06-24-2007 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Corse-R (Post 3426033)
Uhm... the R01-T should be quick as a raped ape, I suspect you're having a tunning problem with it and lack of break-in. Seen one and is... BALLISTIC. In fact, the driver s*ited their pants on the rostrum and put a 8mm restrictor on it to calm the beast.

There's big chances that you haven't finished the break-in, don't rush it, if you have a R01a at hand completely broken-in use it and you'll put the MRT when it decides to finish the break-in.


Hey dude, do you know how much run time he was getting before re-fueling? I was getting 4 minutes..and the bottom end was pretty much as lean as you'd wanna go..

wallyedmonds 06-24-2007 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by kreamUNO (Post 3426303)
i'm not really sure what's the best pipe combo with the t01a, what are you guys running? i need some suggestions.

ty, cheers.

well of the two iv run the ninja and the rd logics legal
the nija is a little better
but try and get a ninja now,its hard so i have to settle for the rd.

kreamUNO 06-24-2007 07:20 PM

i have the turbo rd logics but im not sure how it is with the ninja to1a...is it really good like you say it is? if so then im a happy camper and settled.

Corse-R 06-24-2007 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ryan41 (Post 3426829)
Hey dude, do you know how much run time he was getting before re-fueling? I was getting 4 minutes..and the bottom end was pretty much as lean as you'd wanna go..

Ok. You could have the LSN leaned as a hell but if is too lean could mask a too rich HSN, hence you poor runtime. Give us more details of your car when running only 4 minutes, starting from engine, fuel, chamber height (measure it with the crushed solder), ratios, wheel measurements and of course, track size and type, you could have there somewhat wrong.

Another way or gaining runtime is going from conical to straight tube manifolds, but you'll lose power. Check if someone can bring you a Nova 9886 pipe and a short straight manifold and see if runtime improves too.

Ryan41 06-25-2007 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by Corse-R (Post 3427528)
Ok. You could have the LSN leaned as a hell but if is too lean could mask a too rich HSN, hence you poor runtime. Give us more details of your car when running only 4 minutes, starting from engine, fuel, chamber height (measure it with the crushed solder), ratios, wheel measurements and of course, track size and type, you could have there somewhat wrong.

Another way or gaining runtime is going from conical to straight tube manifolds, but you'll lose power. Check if someone can bring you a Nova 9886 pipe and a short straight manifold and see if runtime improves too.

Hey, yeh bottom end is definately lean..as it caused it to flame out a few times...so I will richen the bottom a tad and play with the HSN tomorrow..and let you know how I go!

Anyone know what the optimum temp is to run up top on this engine? as the head doesnt really get hot at all..just warm..

AMGRacer 06-25-2007 02:28 AM

Cutouts with a cool head are quite common with a very lean bottom and rich top end. I suspect your tune probably is not optimal.

I dont know about the MRT version but my R01 runs really well at about 105 on the plug.

M7H 06-25-2007 03:52 AM

Drivers should not look at the engine temperature to much.
Humidity, airtemp, fuel type are all factors which have influence on the temp.....

First (learn to) tune your engine right, and then take the temp. as a future reference.

rcfoolz 06-26-2007 05:00 PM

Engine question: I don't get much time to practice and work on gearing. I've been plagued with this Ninja engine, .12. It seems to be ok, temp wise, but it sure is a slug out of the hole with the gearing that I used. The same gearing on my Max power, the car is a bullet. I'm going to try dropping a tooth on the pinnions. Can anybody give me some input on the gearing for this engine....does it need to rev more? do I need to send it to Grinder? or do I just sell it and get another Max?

wallyedmonds 06-26-2007 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by rcfoolz (Post 3432877)
Engine question: I don't get much time to practice and work on gearing. I've been plagued with this Ninja engine, .12. It seems to be ok, temp wise, but it sure is a slug out of the hole with the gearing that I used. The same gearing on my Max power, the car is a bullet. I'm going to try dropping a tooth on the pinnions. Can anybody give me some input on the gearing for this engine....does it need to rev more? do I need to send it to Grinder? or do I just sell it and get another Max?

try 1 tooth bigger on the spurs
or put it in a mugen (joking)
my ninja has more go than my max's ever did.
how is the tune.:)

rcfoolz 06-26-2007 07:29 PM

tune is perfect. running around 240 after a 20min main. Topend is great, but getting there isn't, it pulls, but not the way I want it to.


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