Ninja Engine by GRP
03-20-2007 | 05:29 AM
#661
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Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 2
Originally Posted by Francis M.
your in the ninja thread, what do you think people will recommend? lol
03-20-2007 | 05:49 AM
#662
Read Lord Mike Swagers clutch article. The pro's WILL get you started in the rite direction, its up to you to figure out how to use this info to the best of your ability. Mikes article, he gave it to you. Do what the engine is telling you not what you've heard or read. This clutch info I gave was for Port Charlotte 91x195 a very fast layout. www.rc-racing.org There is not a corner exit where you are squeezing the trigger and starting out at the bottom of first gear. Yes I thought 4mm was a little big so I started out at 3.5mm and continued to drill larger at our state race at the Fort. I drilled larger because I kept cranking on the clutch nut to get what I was after. James good show. Rcfoolz is racing with a shattered ankle and Belz palsy...hard core.
03-20-2007 | 06:48 AM
#663
Originally Posted by cdelong
I'm not sure if Mike and Ron are drilling their shoes- wouldn't that be cause for having to crank down on the nut to get the same punch out of the clutch? If the shoes are lighter the engine has to be higher in the powerband to keep them on the steel plate right?? The lighter shoes will slide out quicker, but not as hard as a non-drilled shoe.
I may be hosed in my theory.... it's awful late here on the east coast
Don't light shoes move out fast but hit soft/ Heavy shoes move out slower but hit harder?? (both assuming the same spring compression).
I need some edumacation on that
I may be hosed in my theory.... it's awful late here on the east coast
Don't light shoes move out fast but hit soft/ Heavy shoes move out slower but hit harder?? (both assuming the same spring compression).
I need some edumacation on that
You can adjust your end play a little bit to have the clutch engage harder or smoother besides the weight of the actual fly weight. The setting recomended is a pretty good starting point. My engine temp went down considerably going with the Settings recommended above.
Last edited by Francis M.; 03-20-2007 at 07:03 AM.
03-20-2007 | 07:38 AM
#665
Originally Posted by M7H
Probably also the fuel consumption, or not?
If it did add fuel consumption it was minimal since I was making run time with both settings. It was just a lot easier to drive once i adjusted the clutch settings since to motor was just more consistent since my original settings were a bit heavy.
03-20-2007 | 08:00 AM
#667
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,198
From: The Netherlands
Originally Posted by Francis M.
If it did add fuel consumption it was minimal since I was making run time with both settings. It was just a lot easier to drive once i adjusted the clutch settings since to motor was just more consistent since my original settings were a bit heavy.
Originally Posted by Pooh2
M7H, I gotta c u drive man. U sure sound like a Michael Salven or something?
No, as stated above, it was just a conclusion.....
03-20-2007 | 10:03 AM
#668
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Originally Posted by M7H
With the mugen clutch, with 4 shoes in between the pins, it all comes down to centrifugal forces.... with the serpent type of clutches, it's a bit different.... (just to make people a bit more confused... 
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But as we are talking mugen now, lighter shoes will engage later, but also with less force....
If you are having mid power problems, lighter shoes might do the job, because the clutch might help (due to some slip) to keep the rev's of the engine up...
Heavier shoes, with a harder spring setting might let the engine bog down a bit.....
) But as we are talking mugen now, lighter shoes will engage later, but also with less force....
If you are having mid power problems, lighter shoes might do the job, because the clutch might help (due to some slip) to keep the rev's of the engine up...
Heavier shoes, with a harder spring setting might let the engine bog down a bit.....
i could be wrong but thats how i see it.
03-20-2007 | 04:25 PM
#670
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 2,198
From: The Netherlands
Originally Posted by border r/c
that's only due the fact a few people quit
But now I'm qurious how I will do this season..... on our highest level.....
See you in 3 weeks....
03-25-2007 | 08:54 AM
#674
Originally Posted by nitrodude
I just got one of these, I was reading a few pages back. Whats the swager break in method? I got the MR12.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...=95814&page=16