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deadmancourt 05-10-2011 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by matrixmike28 (Post 9090966)
I found that when my engine finally broke in (in the middle of a main of course) that it got very fat. I tried to retune it as I always had previously with the short LSN and it did not work well. The best method I found was what I had used previously on OS motors.

set idle gap to 1mm
return all needles to flush
adjust HSN first by making high speed runs until the engine revs to full potential then backing off about 1 hour.
adjust LSN until you get a smooth idle (on my prototype GXII it is about 1 and 1/2 turns in from flush.
make a few more high speed runs checking for good smoke trail and making sure the engine revs fully. At this point you may have to make a very small adjustment to the HSN probably not more than 1 hour in either direction.

Since doing this I have only had to make very small adjustments to the LSN do to changes in temperature but have not touched the HSN.

This is exacly what I have always done aswell....:D

22Racer 05-10-2011 02:39 PM

Break in on the bench went pretty good, ran 6 tanks. On most motors I set the idle gap on the bench on the last tank, I set it at .7mm and rev it and make sure it idles nice. When I ran it in the driveway it lean bogged and cut out. Made a few adjustments and got it running pretty good, did seem a little finicky. I hope to run it on a track tomorrow.

Rex

grizz1 05-10-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ruune (Post 9090935)
Thanks for your help, Grizz. I suggested this to people that have trouble tuning after going through their "normal" routine. Funny thing is that half of the guys that are having trouble switched from OS to Go. All of them have a lot of experience with RC and tuning motors at the expert and pro levels. They came to me indicating that they couldnt get it to tune right. I took one look at these carbs and said "uh... guys..."

Mainly they had the LSN WAAAAY out.

My philosophy of tune top, then bottom, then set idle works for me... so that's what I suggest when people have problems. There is absolutely nothing wrong with setting the idle gap first. Whatever works for each tuner!

Yeah no worries Trey. Like I said, I didn't want to interfere with your market as it were. You have lots of very experianced guys there to get their heads around it. Hope your customers get it sorted, as the GXII is a brilliant motor.
Lots of great race results already here with limited fuel through the motors, so the future looks bright :cool:

curacing2 05-10-2011 04:28 PM

Its easy to restrict fuel at idle by being too lean on the lsn in the GXII, I found out how restricted fuel can be buy blowing through the fuel line with the carb closed.
It showed me that you cannot set the lsn any more than about 3/4 of a turn in from flush,it was almost completely closed off... even at 1/2 a turn in its very hard to see how any fuel can get past the lsn when the throttle is closed.
I now leave the lsn at about 1/2 a turn in and tune with the hsn

inferno13 05-11-2011 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by curacing2 (Post 9092217)
Its easy to restrict fuel at idle by being too lean on the lsn in the GXII, I found out how restricted fuel can be buy blowing through the fuel line with the carb closed.
It showed me that you cannot set the lsn any more than about 3/4 of a turn in from flush,it was almost completely closed off... even at 1/2 a turn in its very hard to see how any fuel can get past the lsn when the throttle is closed.
I now leave the lsn at about 1/2 a turn in and tune with the hsn

i have been breaking in the GXII and agree with this, i have 10 tanks through it so far, my LSN is turned 1/2 turn in, any more than it flames out after a high speed pass to neutral. now tuneing the HSN, that is about 2-3 hours from flush (factory settings) idle gap set at 1mm, engine is idleing perfect and is much easier to break in than the GX5R was. (atleast for me), very happy so far!!! after tuneing a bit engine seems smoother from bottom to mid that the GX5R, havent really reach top end yet, trying to be patient;)

inferno13 05-11-2011 02:18 PM

after i have this GXII fully broke in and race a day at the local club race i would like to install ceramic bearings. what is the main benifit for ceramic bearings? i heard they dont last as long? do the just make things turn smoother and faster? if i do decide to put these in (i have them already) im not doing it myself, engines never run the same when i take them apart:lol:, would anyone here that is familair with GO ENGINES be interested in doing it for me for a small fee, i already have the bearings that i can send with. maybe check out the rod while its tore down, i have tons of those...LOL

motomatt 05-11-2011 03:17 PM

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...on_JR/toot.gif

I have the tools..................and I know how to use 'em. :sneaky: :sneaky:

I'll do it free Mike :eek:, just pay shipping.:)
(and any extra parts (may need an o-ring or sumpin)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...on_JR/toot.gif

Moto

inferno13 05-11-2011 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by motomatt (Post 9097172)
http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...on_JR/toot.gif

I have the tools..................and I know how to use 'em. :sneaky: :sneaky:

I'll do it free Mike :eek:, just pay shipping.:)
(and any extra parts (may need an o-ring or sumpin)

http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/...on_JR/toot.gif

Moto

the toot toot things cracks me every time.....LMAO, I also have tons of o-rings i got from trey, but ill keep them for future needs, and give ya some
biz nis. gotsta love the northern talk up dis way, so much easier to understand, or sumpin like dat....LOL

motomatt 05-11-2011 04:38 PM

Backplate o-ring and the one for the carb that fits down in the crankcase.

inferno13 05-11-2011 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by motomatt (Post 9097518)
Backplate o-ring and the one for the carb that fits down in the crankcase.

yep, i have tons of them:nod:, but like i said, ill let ya do what ya gota do. what is the main benifit for ceramic bearings??

motomatt 05-11-2011 05:00 PM

HORSEPOWER

Pro:
less friction
slightly faster wind-up
slightly higher RPM potential (not with a torque pipe though)

Con:
they don't tolerate dirt in them.
they are harder (more brittle) than steel/stainless, so proper installation is critical. Any bearing mis-alignment can crack a race or ball.

inferno13 05-11-2011 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by motomatt (Post 9097599)
HORSEPOWER

Pro:
less friction
slightly faster wind-up
slightly higher RPM potential (not with a torque pipe though)

Con:
they don't tolerate dirt in them.
they are harder (more brittle) than steel/stainless, so proper installation is critical. Any bearing mis-alignment can crack a race or ball.

hmmm....... maybe put the rear ceramic in and leave the front bearing??

ace921000 05-11-2011 05:11 PM

I have a old go-tech 5 port engine that only has a few tanks on it. Can not wait to revive this thing after it has been laying dormant for 2 years...:D

motomatt 05-11-2011 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by inferno13 (Post 9097627)
hmmm....... maybe put the rear ceramic in and leave the front bearing??

many choose that setup

there is the worry that the front bearing is exposed to dirt, and starter box use puts higher stress on the front bearing.

(did anyone notice that Trey included only rear ceramics with the promo engines?) :)

inferno13 05-11-2011 05:25 PM

(did anyone notice that Trey included only rear ceramics with the promo engines?)

i noticed that, thats why i asked. plus trey also mentioned that to me a while back.


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