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Offroader manix 01-07-2012 06:09 PM

Got one yesterday.

Need to pre heat the engine before break in with a hair dryer.
Be patience when during this period. Pinch is very hard.

After the breaking, the engine rocks. So much power and hold tune.

I am getting another one. Simply awesome.

Thumbs up !

rageworks 01-07-2012 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Offroader manix (Post 10137883)
Got one yesterday.

Need to pre heat the engine before break in with a hair dryer.
Be patience when during this period. Pinch is very hard.

After the breaking, the engine rocks. So much power and hold tune.

I am getting another one. Simply awesome.

Thumbs up !

How much fuel did you run through it to break the inital pinch
and before you dialed in the final race tune in on the engine ?

bigjayjay1 01-07-2012 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Hobby Pro USA (Post 10136879)
Video:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=...00000308299584

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=2955492056205

Ryan Lopez at the Warehouse $10,000 Payout race. He is qualified 2nd behind Billy Easton. Lopez is the only truggy able to make the huge double every lap in his TQ run.

There link doesn't work for the video

stallen50 01-07-2012 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by rageworks (Post 10138045)
How much fuel did you run through it to break the inital pinch
and before you dialed in the final race tune in on the engine ?

Mine took about 3/4-1gal. runs awesome. now waiting for my new buggy to get here. sucks just looking at sit there.lol

Offroader manix 01-08-2012 12:05 AM

rageworks, close to what stallen mentioned.

fantastic engine. very consistent and good quality. the engine seems very similar to os double world champion engine. the vspec but not a speed. it would even better to have epoxy filled and balance crank.

read the review here and decided to have a go and I wasn't dissappointed at all.

Hobby Pro USA 01-08-2012 07:44 AM

3 of Top 4 after qualifying at the $10,000 Payout race in AL are Hobby Pro USA Team Drivers:
Pro Buggy
1. Jason Branham - Agama/OS/Beta Cubez
2. Ryan Lopez - Losi/Arrow GTR-21
3. Billy Easton - Serpent/Proline/Nova
4. Corey Johnson - Agama/Arrow GTR-21/JC

:nod:

rageworks 01-08-2012 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by stallen50 (Post 10138187)
Mine took about 3/4-1gal. runs awesome. now waiting for my new buggy to get here. sucks just looking at sit there.lol


Originally Posted by Offroader manix (Post 10139023)
rageworks, close to what stallen mentioned.

fantastic engine. very consistent and good quality. the engine seems very similar to os double world champion engine. the vspec but not a speed. it would even better to have epoxy filled and balance crank.

read the review here and decided to have a go and I wasn't dissappointed at all.

I'm glad to hear that you guys are taking the time to run some fuel
through these engines before you hammer them too hard.

Rsickles 01-08-2012 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Offroader manix (Post 10139023)
fantastic engine. very consistent and good quality. the engine seems very similar to os double world champion engine. the vspec but not a speed. it would even better to have epoxy filled and balance crank.

The Speed version of the short-stroke crank is the most expensive part of a Speed... but also where the biggest power gain comes from. Most of the power comes from enlarged crank opening and the ramping on the back.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Arrow fixed the biggest problem with the standard VSpec and got rid of the oiling hole on the crank pin and moved it to the rod instead (like on the Speed version). Helps with crank pin wear (minus DLC).

Assuming the crankcase exhaust port is identical, the one thing I think Arrow could do is start using a Speed VZB version sleeve. There's no extra work (meaning, no extra production cost... just initial setup costs)... it's simply altering the exhaust port shape. The improved exhaust cutout on the Speed sleeve helps a lot with mileage too.

stallen50 01-08-2012 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rsickles (Post 10141162)
The Speed version of the short-stroke crank is the most expensive part of a Speed... but also where the biggest power gain comes from. Most of the power comes from enlarged crank opening and the ramping on the back.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Arrow fixed the biggest problem with the standard VSpec and got rid of the oiling hole on the crank pin and moved it to the rod instead (like on the Speed version). Helps with crank pin wear (minus DLC).

Assuming the crankcase exhaust port is identical, the one thing I think Arrow could do is start using a Speed VZB version sleeve. There's no extra work (meaning, no extra production cost... just initial setup costs)... it's simply altering the exhaust port shape. The improved exhaust cutout on the Speed sleeve helps a lot with mileage too.

yes they did move the oiling hole to the rod. and the pinch and compression last way longer than the old vspecs did. from would i heard. mine is still pretty new

MasterComander 01-08-2012 04:02 PM

hi , does "Arrow Racing" himself pop onto this thread... ive been trying to get intouch since im looking to import somthing thats got the +ive feebback and quality.. these looks really sweet!

any help would be appreciated

what shops carry arrow engines??

Rsickles 01-08-2012 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by MasterComander (Post 10141524)
what shops carry arrow engines??

In US, any vendor who has Hobby Pro account. In Euro, with Dark. Don't think there's any dist. in Australia. Don't know if either one can ship to you.

http://dark-products.de/xtcommerce/

http://vp-pro-usa.com/engines/arrow.html

Offroader manix 01-08-2012 08:27 PM

Agree with Rsickles and Stallen50.
It is an improvised of the V-spec engine ( Part of Speed and V-spec )
I am actually a fan of the V-spec and doesn't like the X-spec so much.


The Speed version of the short-stroke crank is the most expensive part of a Speed... but also where the biggest power gain comes from. Most of the power comes from enlarged crank opening and the ramping on the back.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Arrow fixed the biggest problem with the standard VSpec and got rid of the oiling hole on the crank pin and moved it to the rod instead (like on the Speed version). Helps with crank pin wear (minus DLC).

Assuming the crankcase exhaust port is identical, the one thing I think Arrow could do is start using a Speed VZB version sleeve. There's no extra work (meaning, no extra production cost... just initial setup costs)... it's simply altering the exhaust port shape. The improved exhaust cutout on the Speed sleeve helps a lot with mileage too.
:nod: Spot on and more power too. Nevertheless, the stock arrow already plentiful. If Arrow have another version of the mentioned, then we would have Arrow Speed :lol:

The V-spec is the fiercest engine for almost 1/2 decade until OS stopped production and comes the Novarossi Plus 4 which dubbed as the OS killer. But lack the the low end response of the V-spec. Nevertheless, I am happy with the Arrow now. It's like the good old days. My 2cents.

shanef 01-08-2012 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rsickles (Post 10141940)
In US, any vendor who has Hobby Pro account. In Euro, with Dark. Don't think there's any dist. in Australia. Don't know if either one can ship to you.

http://dark-products.de/xtcommerce/

http://vp-pro-usa.com/engines/arrow.html

Driveline Rc are the sole importer for Australia - http://drivelinerc.com/

MasterComander 01-08-2012 08:45 PM

aha yeah i stumbled uppon Driveline RC today through "Blooved" , good to see their coming to OZ but when?? and will they be available direct from the importer until they start being available in shops in QLD , NSW etc... no contact info on the page as of yet so its hard to know whats happening..

diamondracing 01-09-2012 09:31 PM

I have V-spec internals and OS carb will they work with an Arrow case.


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