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I have never run across a dissappointed ro disgruntled go engine customer. I have yet to hear of anyone complain about lack of power or short engine life. That in itself says alot about the quality of them. I know not as many people run them and some look at them as a white label mill, but in all honesty i couldn't be more thrilled with the 3 i have. I will continue to run them for the forseeable future. Hell my truggy was able to keep up with a mugen mbx6 buggy with a ninja on the local track, that in itself says alot about the power these things make.
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Originally Posted by jwm2
(Post 7972091)
I have never run across a dissappointed ro disgruntled go engine customer. I have yet to hear of anyone complain about lack of power or short engine life. That in itself says alot about the quality of them. I know not as many people run them and some look at them as a white label mill, but in all honesty i couldn't be more thrilled with the 3 i have. I will continue to run them for the forseeable future. Hell my truggy was able to keep up with a mugen mbx6 buggy with a ninja on the local track, that in itself says alot about the power these things make.
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Hi Neil,
Were the engines you mentioned a coupel posts back your mods or stock? How would you compare the stock versions of the engines you just mentioned to each other? |
Originally Posted by khannibal
(Post 7972246)
Hi Neil,
Were the engines you mentioned your mod versions or stock? How would you compare the stock versions of the engines you just mentioned? |
I will say the most impressive stock engines I have run are the original Ninja 28 and the OS 25...both those engines absolutely rip ! to date no stock .21 has ever made me lift an eyebrow since my original Picco P7R EVO2
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I wish it were possible to have a blind taste test with all these engines........ everyone has their preferred brand name but I really wonder if that would be the engine they actually preferred in a blind test drive...It would be neat to be able to have people test all the good engines without knowing what they were actually driving, then grade them on paper on the likes and dislikes......
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Great idea, and I can easily see this happening. Great magazine article idea :)
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I really appreciate your perspective, Neil. Very open-minded and as unbiased as you could possibly be, given your kind of experience. For me, it inspires great confidence in the things you say about any engine. Good stuff man!
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Sorry i don't buy it. I don't see a single go engine listed on your website. Maybe i'm missing something, but its fairly obvious that you'd rather push other engines to allow your modding and reconditioning services to flourish. I even did a search on your website and didn't even find a single post about go engines.
C & P: Search Enter your keywords: go engine Search results The official Say hello thread ! ... and I may have a little sellers remorse for letting it go. I run a Savage XL and have not had many good outings with the 5.9 motor ... have to give Neal a call sometime and discuss a killer engine for my Hyper 8.5 Latemodel, I'm torn between a modded Picco P3 .28 just ... Forum topic Picco Boost ... for run time. I see that it is only listed as an engine and pipe combo, any idea if they will be selling just the engine at some ... I was literally laughing watching this thing go. Fast? Ummm...HELL YA!!!! How would you (anyone of you ... Forum topic cre ninja mr28 ... muggy btw, ( I know its like throwing a blown dragster engine in a 500 dollar ford tarus) I know its a big heavy truck and the ... 13 or 14 btw. I need to see how fast this sucker can go! Ive ordered parts to upgrade the diffs, new avids throughout and brand new ... Forum topic Testimonials ... Just got my engine running, and all I can say is I never had a engine run so smooth while ... now i get to get back in the car at 4am tomorrow to go to another job! Yippy!! Well as i say the racing is ... Page Clockwork Mods ... SKU: Clockwork Engine Mod Every engine is different, and every customers needs are ... prices start at $65.00 for a base modification and go up from there depending on what kind of work is needed and how much shop ... Product Picco 28 dyno testing ... base numbers, then tommorow I will modify and re-test the engine ! __________________ ___________________________ Neal ... as we get things a bit organized. We got lots on the go right now! Did picco change their head Did picco change their head ... A search for go tech turned up even fewer results and was the same as the first result shown when searching go engine. |
Originally Posted by jwm2
(Post 7972449)
Sorry i don't buy it. I don't see a single go engine listed on your website. Maybe i'm missing something, but its fairly obvious that you'd rather push other engines to allow your modding and reconditioning services to flourish. I even did a search on your website and didn't even find a single post about go engines.
. clocked go 7 port |
Neal posted a page back his thoughts about GO.
I seen 3-4 GO engines down here 5 and 7 ports all of them had problems. Neal likes the brands he likes for a reason. They hold up well and perform great. |
The video shows how much of a handful they can be in a buggy. Nice powerful engines at a reasonable price, can't ask for much more. I'm not trying to be some sort of go engine salesman, i just like them and don't think they get the credit they deserve. |
Originally Posted by makaluch
(Post 7972385)
...as unbiased as you could possibly be, given your kind of experience. For me...
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Originally Posted by Maximo
(Post 7972206)
Piston material, some of the engines seemed to have a really soft piston that ovalled out at the wristpin, which resulted in the circlip popping loose and ruining the engine........
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Originally Posted by riverviewrc
(Post 7972487)
Neal posted a page back his thoughts about GO.
I seen 3-4 GO engines down here 5 and 7 ports all of them had problems. Neal likes the brands he likes for a reason. They hold up well and perform great. |
Originally Posted by makaluch
(Post 7972539)
No one speaks gospel here bro. Cut people a litle slack. This place is full of experiences, opinions, and information. Do with it whatever you feel. That's why I said what I said, the way I said it. I'll step back now. Sorry for the trouble fellas.
I've bought used engines in the past that were problematic for others and it normally boils down to bad tuning or something else overlooked that can be easily fixed. The fact is alot of people who know very little about nitros end up with them in their possession and get frustrated really quickly as they realize they might be in over their heads. That alone i contribute to alot of the problems people report about various engines. |
Originally Posted by jwm2
(Post 7972449)
Sorry i don't buy it. I don't see a single go engine listed on your website. Maybe i'm missing something, but its fairly obvious that you'd rather push other engines to allow your modding and reconditioning services to flourish. I even did a search on your website and didn't even find a single post about go engines.
C & P: Search Enter your keywords: go engine Search results The official Say hello thread ! ... and I may have a little sellers remorse for letting it go. I run a Savage XL and have not had many good outings with the 5.9 motor ... have to give Neal a call sometime and discuss a killer engine for my Hyper 8.5 Latemodel, I'm torn between a modded Picco P3 .28 just ... Forum topic Picco Boost ... for run time. I see that it is only listed as an engine and pipe combo, any idea if they will be selling just the engine at some ... I was literally laughing watching this thing go. Fast? Ummm...HELL YA!!!! How would you (anyone of you ... Forum topic cre ninja mr28 ... muggy btw, ( I know its like throwing a blown dragster engine in a 500 dollar ford tarus) I know its a big heavy truck and the ... 13 or 14 btw. I need to see how fast this sucker can go! Ive ordered parts to upgrade the diffs, new avids throughout and brand new ... Forum topic Testimonials ... Just got my engine running, and all I can say is I never had a engine run so smooth while ... now i get to get back in the car at 4am tomorrow to go to another job! Yippy!! Well as i say the racing is ... Page Clockwork Mods ... SKU: Clockwork Engine Mod Every engine is different, and every customers needs are ... prices start at $65.00 for a base modification and go up from there depending on what kind of work is needed and how much shop ... Product Picco 28 dyno testing ... base numbers, then tommorow I will modify and re-test the engine ! __________________ ___________________________ Neal ... as we get things a bit organized. We got lots on the go right now! Did picco change their head Did picco change their head ... A search for go tech turned up even fewer results and was the same as the first result shown when searching go engine. You said you never heard a complaint against GO....I had some legitimate complaints and I posted them.... truth be told I have had complaints about almost every engine brand, as no engine is perfect... I don't have Go in my current inventory for several reasons, tho I am a legitimate dealer...I wouldn't lie about something like that FYI...... Main reason is the pricing..what I pay from the Canadian Distributor(who is an awesome guy BTW.) puts me out of range to compete with the people selling stock Go's online and in the US, the Canadian dealer pricing is quite high, and the engines are available retail online for pennies more...So it is not feasible for me to carry them..too many other sources dumping them at very low prices... I just cannot compete in the Go market.... And as a base for modifying I have better options for the dollar IMO...Jammin and Werk's ...Billet pistons, better tolerance in the Sleeve/piston, harder crankshafts, Swiss bearings, Italian build..........As i say I have had great results with the Go engines, my modified versions run like raped Apes, however the pricing on the Go puts them against some pretty stiff competition.... |
Originally Posted by jwm2
(Post 7972543)
What kind of problems? And please don't just regurgitate what neil said as that won't fly.
They never held a tune, and I never saw one perform even like an average motor, but this could be due to many variables. All I can say is GO has not showed me anything to like so far. I do like how they come with an extra con rod but that just makes you wonder why. For the price Werks motors I'd rather go for that, not just because the price but because Ron's customer support is amazing. He posts on the forum quite frequently and on top of that you can call him! |
So what exactly don't you buy JWM2?
I own one of the first GO engines that Neal ever Clocked. It is about four years old now and has had at least a dozen gallons of fuel ran through it. It is still one bad arsed screamin engine and will still eat a Toro Nero for lunch. I agree with Neal, there is NO BEST ENGINE. The track you run on, your driving style, your clutch, gearing and tire set-ups and other factors will determine the best engine/pipe combo for you. That is why I keep over a a dozen different engines and at least that many pipe and header combos. Rather than rely on what someone posts is the best header/pipe combo for an engne, I actualy take the time to find out for myself. Instead of doing the hands on research to find the ideal engine, people would rather let someone else make their descisions for them. The same people that start this kind of thread are the same ones that will want to know the majic number of turns on them there carbrater screws next week.:lol: |
MyRCBox has published an very good article - Buying the right engine for your needs and budget
One day or another, you’ll have to buy a new engine. All the reasons are good to drop a new mill into our rides. Some wants to upgrade their RTR engines for a more powerfull engine, some others try to take advantage of a better fuel mileage and others want to replace a broken or worn out engine. Choosing the right engine for your budget might be more complicated that you might think. Just by surfing one of the most popular online store. I’ve seen more than 80 off-road .21 engines to choose from with a street price varying between 110$us and 600$us. This makes a lot of choices! So, how to choose the right engine?.....READ MORE..... |
Originally Posted by rageworks
(Post 7972699)
So what exactly don't you buy JWM2?
I own one of the first GO engines that Neal ever Clocked. It is about four years old now and has had at least a dozen gallons of fuel ran through it. It is still one bad arsed screamin engine and will still eat a Toro Nero for lunch. I agree with Neal, there is NO BEST ENGINE. The track you run on, your driving style, your clutch, gearing and tire set-ups and other factors will determine the best engine/pipe combo for you. That is why I keep over a a dozen different engines and at least that many pipe and header combos. Rather than rely on what someone posts is the best header/pipe combo for an engne, I actualy take the time to find out for myself. Instead of doing the hands on research to find the ideal engine, people would rather let someone else make their descisions for them. The same people that start this kind of thread are the same ones that will want to know the majic number of turns on them there carbrater screws next week.:lol: |
Originally Posted by jwm2
(Post 7972543)
What kind of problems? And please don't just regurgitate what neil said as that won't fly.
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Originally Posted by rageworks
(Post 7972699)
So what exactly don't you buy JWM2?
I own one of the first GO engines that Neal ever Clocked. It is about four years old now and has had at least a dozen gallons of fuel ran through it. It is still one bad arsed screamin engine and will still eat a Toro Nero for lunch. I agree with Neal, there is NO BEST ENGINE. The track you run on, your driving style, your clutch, gearing and tire set-ups and other factors will determine the best engine/pipe combo for you. That is why I keep over a a dozen different engines and at least that many pipe and header combos. Rather than rely on what someone posts is the best header/pipe combo for an engne, I actualy take the time to find out for myself. Instead of doing the hands on research to find the ideal engine, people would rather let someone else make their descisions for them. The same people that start this kind of thread are the same ones that will want to know the majic number of turns on them there carbrater screws next week.:lol: |
Go engines are nothing special really. They are a decent Taiwanese copy of a nova P5. If you get a good one it will run good for awhile and go downhill quickly after that period. The bad ones just won't run right from the get go. They make pretty good power, get OK fuel mileage, and really don't excel in one area. They can be a bit finicky to tune and don't hold a tune very well at all. For the money they aren't bad, but wouldn't be my choice.
I'm also a firm believer that you get what you pay for. That's just the way it works in this hobby. You can go cheap and get decent stuff or you can spend the money and get the best. That's a decision you have to make for your own personal situation. I'm an OS guy and nothing else has really impressed me. There are a lot of good engines out there, but to me the OS stuff is overall the best. The new OS engines should be even better. As a rule, I don't like Taiwan engines. They always seem to lack quality when compared to Italian or Japanese made engines. I have run many different brands of engines and my favorite is OS, followed by Novarossi. There's my 2 cents. Flame away!:lol: |
Originally Posted by JAMMINKRAZY
(Post 7973206)
The bad ones just won't run right from the get go
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mmmmmmm caramel covered popcorn :p
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Originally Posted by houston
(Post 7973380)
mmmmmmm caramel covered popcorn :p
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Originally Posted by houston
(Post 7973380)
mmmmmmm caramel covered popcorn :p
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If you want a sick motor talk to Neal at Clock works. I highly recommend the JL.21 This motor is OFF THE HOOK. Especially for the price.
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Simple Green,if you are interested in GO Engines,have a look at the GO thread.
I personally am getting excellent results running GO Engines. The new GX series is a major step up in quality from the previous series. Just my 0.2c,evey brand has their fans and haters. |
Maximo,
your CLOCKWORK JL .21 PRO #52207 what kind of lifetime is this engine getting considering buying one of these but have never had a modded engine OR a ofna engine, so I am a bit hesitant also it says under the add: SPECIAL PROMO: Hand lapped Piston & Sleeve break in service is included in all Clockwork modified engines. what dose that mean? |
Originally Posted by Simple GREEN
(Post 7973756)
Maximo,
your CLOCKWORK JL .21 PRO #52207 what kind of lifetime is this engine getting considering buying one of these but have never had a modded engine OR a ofna engine, so I am a bit hesitant also it says under the add: SPECIAL PROMO: Hand lapped Piston & Sleeve break in service is included in all Clockwork modified engines. what dose that mean? |
What do you want? Power? millege? reliability?
You will not find a more powerful .21 engine then my clockwork modded jpx. It's crazy fast and powerful, but it is TOTALLY not necessary. I have several vspecs and ninja's and they are great engines with great runtimes. However from what i have seen personally, and i had to buy another engine it would be the werks b5. It's only 200$ and if you were to take ninja's, vspec, plus 4 four and ran them side by side you would not tell the difference. It's a great engine and my buddy is getting 13+ minutes per tank. DOn't know how long they last or how hard they are to tune though. TYe alphas are screaming too, but i know little about them except they run really well. A little more pricey but the ninja has everything you could want in a motor long lasting, easy tune, powerful and killer mileage. But if i were you i would at least go to clockworks home page and see what might be best for you. The clocked jl is a monster and is only 250 |
Originally Posted by Simple GREEN
(Post 7973756)
Maximo,
your CLOCKWORK JL .21 PRO #52207 what kind of lifetime is this engine getting considering buying one of these but have never had a modded engine OR a ofna engine, so I am a bit hesitant also it says under the add: SPECIAL PROMO: Hand lapped Piston & Sleeve break in service is included in all Clockwork modified engines. what dose that mean? |
Originally Posted by rageworks
(Post 7972699)
So what exactly don't you buy JWM2?
I own one of the first GO engines that Neal ever Clocked. It is about four years old now and has had at least a dozen gallons of fuel ran through it. It is still one bad arsed screamin engine and will still eat a Toro Nero for lunch. I agree with Neal, there is NO BEST ENGINE. The track you run on, your driving style, your clutch, gearing and tire set-ups and other factors will determine the best engine/pipe combo for you. That is why I keep over a a dozen different engines and at least that many pipe and header combos. Rather than rely on what someone posts is the best header/pipe combo for an engne, I actualy take the time to find out for myself. Instead of doing the hands on research to find the ideal engine, people would rather let someone else make their descisions for them. The same people that start this kind of thread are the same ones that will want to know the majic number of turns on them there carbrater screws next week.:lol: Honestly there is not any real "bad" engines out there: nova, rb, reedy, ninja, o.s., werks, alpha, orion, picco, sirio etc etc. They are all good. But as far as getting my buisness neal has all my money in the future. His engines and service are out of this world. I would also like to try a nova p5 and a werks b5 |
FYI:
Ofna makes the Picco. Jammin is the racing division of Ofna (like HB to HPI) and they make the JPX. Edit: not entirely accurate. Change "makes" to "distributes". Specifics below. |
Originally Posted by makaluch
(Post 7974104)
FYI:
Ofna makes the Picco. Jammin is the racing division of Ofna (like HB to HPI) and they make the JPX. |
Originally Posted by Jaz240
(Post 7974129)
Not quite. Actually ofna makes nothing. Ofna is nothing more than the the major distributer of jammin, Hong-Nor, Hobao, and Picco. Picco makes Picco and Picco also makes the jammin engine for Jay Halsey and his jammin line. Ofna is just another Horizon except they have their name on allot of products instead of the manufacturer's name
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I have noticed most of you are recommending the b5 over the b6 for the buggy what my understanding was the b5 was more of a powerhouse truggy engine and the b6 was supposed to get better fuel mileage and have a smoother power-band and therefor be a better buggy engine, but so far I have herd b5 all the way more fuel mileage and a better engine all around...
getting confused:weird: |
and after all these years we are still waiting for them to straighten out their exhaust port :lol:
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