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croracer 10-29-2011 10:49 PM

I was able to club race tonight with my fire11 in buggy. WOW!!! This thing is insane fast!!! Insane Bottom and top just wanted to keep going and going.

I ran it in my rc8.2 buggy, werks 2058 pipe, m2c clutch with 4-1.0.

I really feel like this thing will take a clocked b5, but the B5 has insane runtime.

This engine still only has 3/4gal through it and i was getting 7min+ with it. On a big loose track. I gotta run more fuel throught it and possibly declutch it, run some softer springs.

But this engine is a rocket!!!!!

Thanks for another insane motor neal

TX_Punisher 10-31-2011 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by croracer (Post 9845481)
I really feel like this thing will take a clocked b5, but the B5 has insane runtime.

How is the mod B5 in a buggy? I was thinking it may be too much. What type of run-time are you getting out of it? What pipe?

Thanks

hookem34 10-31-2011 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by TX_Punisher (Post 9852388)
How is the mod B5 in a buggy? I was thinking it may be too much. What type of run-time are you getting out of it? What pipe?

Thanks

I'm currently running a Clocked B5 Pro in my buggy. It can be a handful at times and I had to really soften up the clutch, lower my throtle EPA and switch to the 2057. It still gets great run times.

I have been talking with Nealmover the lat week and am looking for another alternative. Maybe a Nova BTTS or his new Fire 11.

Can't make up my mind:cry:

TX_Punisher 10-31-2011 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by hookem34 (Post 9852455)

I have been talking with Nealmover the lat week and am looking for another alternative. Maybe a Nova BTTS or his new Fire 11.

Can't make up my mind:cry:

Didn't he say above the Fire 11 would be stronger than the mod B5? And you're already saying the mod B5 is a handful at times :p

Have you seen one of his mod B6's run?

Maximo 10-31-2011 05:54 PM

it all depends on traction...on a high bite track the B5 in Buggy is amazing..... However on a really loose surface it needs to be tamed down..... it all depends on how much traction you have to work with.... The F11 like the B5 can be tuned with a tuned pipe.... a B5 2057 is very smooth, so is a F11 on a 2087........ But a B5 on a 2013 is a animal, and so is the F11 for that matter.......... The Modified B6 is very powerful, less explosive then the B5, but every bit as powerful and fast !

TX_Punisher 10-31-2011 06:05 PM

I've got all three Werks pipes. I'm afraid with the mod B6, I'll never see the full potential of the rpm range.

What types of run time are your customers seeing with the mod B5 and a 2057 or 2058?

hookem34 10-31-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by TX_Punisher (Post 9852683)
Didn't he say above the Fire 11 would be stronger than the mod B5? And you're already saying the mod B5 is a handful at times :p

Have you seen one of his mod B6's run?

Ha! I know, I think I'm crazy but that's RB just sounds to damn good! I am getting about 11 minutes per tank on my B5 on a loose outdoor track.

I have been able to tame the bottom end down where I like it but the midrange comes on so hard and fast that it can get away from me some times.

I just hate having to tame down such an incredible engine. When I had it in my truggy I had it running at full tilt:D

TX_Punisher 10-31-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by hookem34 (Post 9852828)

I have been able to tame the bottom end down where I like it but the midrange comes on so hard and fast that it can get away from me some times.

I just hate having to tame down such an incredible engine.

That's my concern. I don't want to waste the power. I'm afraid the B6 won't have the pop I'm looking for as I have a stock B6 now that I had to put 1.1's and a 2013 on to get close to what I'm looking for.

I've been testing out that B2 with a 2013 and I love the bottom to mid. I wonder if the mod B6 will be comparable to the stock B2?

rider313 10-31-2011 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9844196)
Here is Fire 11 with a little more room to wind...this engine is going to have a ridiculous top end once it loosens up fully

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

Neil your neighbors must hate you. :lol:

Maximo 10-31-2011 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by TX_Punisher (Post 9852869)
That's my concern. I don't want to waste the power. I'm afraid the B6 won't have the pop I'm looking for as I have a stock B6 now that I had to put 1.1's and a 2013 on to get close to what I'm looking for.

I've been testing out that B2 with a 2013 and I love the bottom to mid. I wonder if the mod B6 will be comparable to the stock B2?

You probably have never felt and engine as powerful as my modified B6...most people haven't.... You would have no issues with power whatsoever........... Now if you want to be extra sure then consider the F11

TX_Punisher 10-31-2011 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9853072)
You probably have never felt and engine as powerful as my modified B6...most people haven't.... You would have no issues with power whatsoever........... Now if you want to be extra sure then consider the F11

lol. Okay then. So it sounds like it's going to have plenty of bottom? That's the one thing I wish I could change with the stock version.

That's good to know.

THanks

croracer 10-31-2011 07:26 PM

I also run on a loosetrack the mod b5 in buggy has to be tamed down. With my i ran 2 1.0's and 2 .95 and it helped smooth it out. also with a 2058 pipe.

The rb is wicked on the bottom and top end. really fast and explosive. It ramps up faster than the b5.

Its sounds awesome as well!!

croracer 10-31-2011 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by TX_Punisher (Post 9852388)
How is the mod B5 in a buggy? I was thinking it may be too much. What type of run-time are you getting out of it? What pipe?

Thanks


My B5 i was getting about 12 mins +/-. i run on a big loose track. the pipe that i ran was a 2058 werks pipe.

Maximo 10-31-2011 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by TX_Punisher (Post 9853097)
lol. Okay then. So it sounds like it's going to have plenty of bottom? That's the one thing I wish I could change with the stock version.

That's good to know.

THanks


The modified B6 is very powerful....it has no issues pushing a truggy on our track that has very high traction..... It has a substantial amount of work done to it....exhaust port is cut, boost port is cut, transfers are cut, head button is cut, crank is cut,piston is cu etc. etc.... Now I also can also custom tune a engines powerband to suit your needs if you so desired....For example I have had customers who run on astroturf need a engine with substantially more bottom end then the engines we typically run over here......I have pretty much full control over how much power an engine can make, and where in the powerband it will make that power...As well as how aggressively the engine will respond to throttle input....... As a rule all my current modified engines will all have very strong bottom ends..I find engines work better on the track if they have stout bottom ends...they are usually easier and more forgiving to tune on the LSN, they are also more forgiving and more flexible on clutch tuning...they can be tuned from mild to wild very easily.....When a engine has good bottom end efficiency they tend to have a much broader sweet spot on the LSN and still make usable power...If a engine is light on bottom end they tend to become too picky to tune on the LSN...the needles has to be set perfect or the engine won't make usable power....

Maximo 10-31-2011 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by abqNitro (Post 9844374)
What kind of run time is that thing getting? How would you rate the overall performance of the Fire 11 as compared to the Clocked Bonito and the O.S. 25xz?

I am unsure of runtime at this point....My track is shut down and I wont be able to get one onto the track myself till next spring..... The C6 engines that I have modified all ended up being extremely good on fuel..So chances are good this engine will be good on fuel as well......With the modifications I do the engines typically become more efficient in general, and based how crispy this F11 runs I am going to guess that it is indeed running very efficiently....I wish I had more data to offer, but this engine is still new to me....Its kinda like a modified C6 on steroids !


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