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Maximo 05-02-2011 04:46 PM

The Argus is stout tho...no question there.......but stock its not going to run with the fully modified B5, that is just silliness ! However on a track anything can happen, your only as fast as your tires..All the power in the world wont help if you don't have traction or the room to stretch their legs..... On a small tight loose track anything will hang with anything..... But open things up a little, add some traction and thats a whole different story ! not hatin, just sayin !

Maximo 05-02-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jaz240 (Post 9051593)
X2..I've yet to see anything that can hang with the CRE B5..the Jammin comes close but not yet

Well a Alpha orange head is really close to the Argus...nearly identical...since you own a Alpha Orange head and a Clocked B5...how do they compare ?

rider313 05-02-2011 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9051673)
Well a Alpha orange head is really close to the Argus...nearly identical...since you own a Alpha Orange head and a Clocked B5...how do they compare ?

I run the stock argus, it's nice mill for stock, but at the dome race a month ago nicks clocked B5 was off the wall. I could tell when he went full trigger, that thing screamed.

Jaz240 05-02-2011 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9051673)
Well a Alpha orange head is really close to the Argus...nearly identical...since you own a Alpha Orange head and a Clocked B5...how do they compare ?

Honestly for all out power on a straight they really dont even come close. The alpha is a great engine as is the Argus, very smooth and capable to get your buggy around any track. The CRE B5 is a ballistic missile with better run times and a much better carb. On a 200 foot straight with all things being equal the CRE B5 will win by 30 feet

Maximo 05-02-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Jaz240 (Post 9051776)
Honestly for all out power on a straight they really dont even come close. The alpha is a great engine as is the Argus, very smooth and capable to get your buggy around any track. The CRE B5 is a ballistic missile with better run times and a much better carb. On a 200 foot straight with all things being equal the CRE B5 will win by 30 feet

thats what I felt too..... tho the modded Argus gave the mod B5 a hell of a run, we raced them about 2 dozen times on Friday...both in equally setup mugen 6T's......We had a blast ! but we were in a open area with pretty decent traction.......IMO for the money the mod Argus is pretty killer, i have been having a blast ripping on it ! But at the end of the day the B5 did show to have more torque and more RPM, tho the Argus held its own very well IMO ! We had a killer day..mod OS 28, Mod Ascendancy G5 , Mod Argus and Mod B5...the Argus, ASC and B5 all in 6T's and the OS 28 in a HB D8T....

dreaux 05-02-2011 06:06 PM

How are you guys shimming the b5 with m2c clutch? I have to put 3 shimms just to clear the carburator throat. I Was using a older collet but it is making me nervous, so i went ahead and put the one that came with the engine. The only thing about the 3 shimms is i can hear them rubbing each other when i turn the crank. At 800 rpm's a second that may not turn out so well.

Jaz240 05-02-2011 06:12 PM

I used the thicker of the 2 shims that came with the clutch. i think its 2MM. clearance is fine and no noises or grinding.

hambone 05-02-2011 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by dreaux (Post 9052087)
How are you guys shimming the b5 with m2c clutch? I have to put 3 shimms just to clear the carburator throat. I Was using a older collet but it is making me nervous, so i went ahead and put the one that came with the engine. The only thing about the 3 shimms is i can hear them rubbing each other when i turn the crank. At 800 rpm's a second that may not turn out so well.

Shims don't rub each other unless the crank wasn't pulled out all the way and the collet wasn't snugged against the shims before tightening. 3 shims sounds about right though. Sometimes i use the thick losi spacer that comes with their flywheel.

dreaux 05-02-2011 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by hambone (Post 9052131)
Shims don't rub each other unless the crank wasn't pulled out all the way and the collet wasn't snugged against the shims before tightening. 3 shims sounds about right though. Sometimes i use the thick losi spacer that comes with their flywheel.

I'll work it out. Crank is definitley pulled out though. Just wanted to if this was the norm. I also noticed the werks bearings have a little more back and forth play then i am used to. No biggie.

Oh, i hate mugen bells!

bpalmer 05-02-2011 06:40 PM

800 rpm's a second


rpm being revolution per minute........how many is that exactly?:weird:

Jaz240 05-02-2011 06:46 PM

48,000 :sneaky:

croracer 05-02-2011 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by xc7 (Post 9051616)
+1

We've already done this test :blush:

Stock Argus isn't even going to catch the Clocked B5's smoke trail:lol:

Im running a mbx6t with a clocked b5 and 2058 pipe m2c clutch and my buddy has a argus slightly modded in a buggy and i can take him down on a long 200' straright away. the infeild is no problem as well.

dreaux 05-02-2011 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by bpalmer (Post 9052282)
800 rpm's a second


rpm being revolution per minute........how many is that exactly?:weird:

Alot:lol:

Really its probably 750 pegged out. When you think about it, it really is amazing. Most cars/trucks redline at 6k rpm's! Could you imagine riding in a 1/1 scale buggy pulling 45k rpm! Carb boot balloons, fuel tank washing like white rappids on niagra falls! The noise, the vibrations? Ceramic bearings anyone?:sneaky:

Slimsh8t 05-02-2011 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by hdcruzer (Post 9051342)
I run a stock A52 and it hangs with a CRE modded B5 all day long............ If you go to the CRE website theres some Dynos you can compare.....

:ha::lol::lol::lol::lol:

dreaux 05-02-2011 09:18 PM

I have a ninja that absolutley rips and the mod b5 makes it look silly with it's power. Can't wait to see the top end of this thing when i get the 2058!


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