hit houston up ... he may have a case or 2

Which motors are you sealing the intake hole on and could someone give me a basic idea on how it's done? Thanks!

I ran the plus 4c in my truck box stock, no mods and loved it for 12 gallons. This engine is already pretty stout from factory. The mods to the p4 will mostly benefit runtime.

Yeah I did lean the lsn. Its still out from flush but I would say I turned it about a turn from what the factory set it at. Just finished tank 4, and I have it running on the box, still blipping the throttle about 1/4 throttle. Temp is about 195. Tried running it on the ground but the hsn is still way to rich. Gonna lean it out a little tomorrow and put it on the ground.

I have a question about the 21 4c. I used a peice of .6 piano wire to set the idle gap ( with venturi out) And if i try and tune the bottom without touching the idle gap i have to run the bottom so rich. about 3 turns out from flush. I am having no issues with closing the idle gap and leaning the bottom though. Good idle consistent and strong pull and even smoke stream. I looked at a factory novarossi drivers engine and he was about a 1/2 turn in from flush on the low speed. Basically i am just wondering why they say .6 idle gap when it seems that nobody is running that. Just a thought i was pondering in my head.

Just give your engine what it needs to run correctly in your environment. Don't get hung up on a number. It is merely a suggested starting point.

;)

I tried to run the factory settings on my motor and it was to lean on the LSN also the .6 ended up being closer to .5 Like said earlier run it like the enviroment requires

Ok. I am coming from a werks motor. With there motor you set the idle gap then never touch it again. I figured the 214c was the same. I have to say I have a gallon through this motor and love it :-)

once you get it set you won't have to touch it to much other then to fine tune for weather conditions but it only takes a slight adjustment with a nova carb. Once I was close on my LSN it only takes less then an hour either direction to adjust it and then if needed I will adjust idle stop but not very often.

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Where are some of your guys needles at on your Plus 4 Teams? Tyler's has about a little over 2 gallons on it now and was just curious to see if I'm close.

Is it true on these if you are on rich side of LSN during pit, it will load up bad? Last time we ran Tyler's, I richened LSN a little before main and it loaded up twice. Flamed once and he got it to come out of it the other time? It is a TLR 8 2.0 buggy too. Gonna lean LSN back to where I had and see what happens.


We are new to Nova and loving them so far.


TIA!!

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Neal how does that gun compare to others in the market already? Looks very nice.

Hi.
Yep, Novarossi engines needs close to a lean LSN. If the idle speed drops in RPM after 10-20 sec. of idle, its too rich. Remember very small adjustment on the needles. For finetune its max 1/12 of a turn - otherwise you'll mess up the tune.

Randy
Sounds like you are just slightly rich on the LSN. Lean it out a touch. If it starts to short bog coming off idle, or just not smooth transition from idle to low to mid range then its lust slightly to lean, open the LSN slightly 1/24th to 1/12 of a turn and go from there. You may have to adjust your idle stop screw a hair to to bring the idle back up slightly.

at 2 gallons, it also sounds like your motor may have just broke in too. Meaning that both needles might need a sighty leaner adjustment. Its a nice feeling when a Nova drops its nuts. Lean it out slightly and hold on for the ride.

it feels excellent !!! definitely better then any other fuel gun I have seen yet..... the trigger/plunger seals very well and has a strong spring behind it, so the open/close is very positive.... the fit and finish is very good, its definitely built with a higher standard then the others we have...

Is there an advantage in fuel mileage between these two motors.. Nova P5XLT vs. 21-4C Team? If so, what kind of difference?

Well I am thinking about getting a new Nova soon my BTTA has about 6 gallons on it but still runs great I just want to have something new to play with that has a little more power. Anyway whats a better choice for someone who has ran several 4 port Novas but looking for more power and top? P5 or Bonito or other? Also I have had more during race flameouts with my BTT (5) than I did with my Nitrotec (2) both at 6 gallons but probably to fat on LSN with BTT. Any advice on new motor? Thanks!

Tuned P5 by who ever u like or a Fusion X3XL or X5. Maybe Benito depending on what it is going in. RB BX-R if you could find one.

I am putting it in my Losi 8b 2.0 and I really like Novarossi and have done well with them but just want to try something different than 3 or 4 port motor. I know this Nova thread but what about new Orion 5p TE (Dakota Phend)any feedback on it yet? My friend just got a modded P5 with 17011 put in front but I am waiting until he breaks it in and lets me run it on track and if I like it will more than likely get a P5 but need some prices on the motor with mod and 17011 bearing put in front from a couple motor guys before I decide. My buddies P5 was like $350 from Clockwork. Thanks for any feedback/advice!

Sorry!

Cant go wrong with a nova motor

anyone run the plus 21-4 with a losi re10 pipe? email with drake said the re12 is compatible and works well. just seeing what you guys thought!

thanks

Yes I have and it works well with the RE10 which is a low end power pipe but the RE12 which is a Nova 9901 works better IMO for a smooth power band and good mileage with Nova 4 ports. I use a RE12 on all my Novarossi engines instead of a Nova 9901 because the RE12 is much more durable for half of the price, also looks great on a Losi like mine. Good Luck!

thanks very much, nick...im going to use it and see if i like it since i already have one. but when i get some extra $$$ i will buy the re 12

:smile:

I was kind of wondering the difference in mileage as well

stock vs stock the plus4 has better mileage than p5xlt all things being equal

What you guys think about the "new" P218XLT that seems it will be under €200?
Regards!

Never heard of it. Not pulling anything up on it either. Typo perhaps? Got a link?

It says 2010 spec. Nothing new about that :D

If you go to http://www.buggy-sport.info/index.php/news?limitstart=0
It shows it at the bottom of the page. They are saying it is an 8 port motor based off the P5. I bet that thing would scream!!

Wow a P8. I'd love to see that thing in action

i've built about 5 or 6 of them , excellent engine

i actually still have one or two plus 21-8T , thats more than likely nearly identical to this p8

its much dfrnt than the p5xlt , different case , different crank those two things make a HUGE difference:D

nice running engine , i'd say 9853ss/41021

Would this be better geared for a buggy or truggy? What engine on the market would you compare it to?

Hi folks,
this probably been asked before, but I've tried search and I couldn't find the right answer. I live on sea level with 60-80% humidity, temp anywhere between 80 to 100.

I just bought a novarossi btt with 2012 carb. Came from OS background I have no idea how to tune this engine. I followed break in bible and purchased comp heat blanket. Pre heat engine for 20 mins, set everything on factory tune 5 out LSN and 3.5 out HSN. Problem is, I could not keep the engine idle without the glowplug staying attached, as soon as I undo the glowplug heater, the engine would always die. the engine is easy to start but flame out very easily too...Tried running it with the glowplug heater attached and I could see smoke trail, not much tho. Running stockplug that came with the engine, couldn't remember the exact number but it's got 6 on it.

BTW I added 0.1 shim on head to match my climate.

Any advices ??

Thanks in advance.

The 3.5 out from closed on the LSN is to lean for break in. Also, get your self an OD 97T plug fro break in and only use it for the first gallon. You don't want to break in with a $11 glow plug. after the first gallon put your #6 Nova plug back in. Also open your idle gap a little since your LSN is so rich for break in. Make sure your 190 to 210 for the entire tank of fuel during break in and the same for start up. 20 minutes should be enough for the Comp heater to get it up to temp but double check before you start it. Take the break in nice and easy and get at least a gallon before you start to try to race tune. My plus 4 took 2 gallons to break in fully. Once its broke in and the tune is close you will have a great smooth, reliable motor.
On a side note, always use you comp heater before start up, it will extend the life of your motor.

It's 3.5 out HSN and 5 out LSN, not the other way around. Is it OK or still too lean? I gave a bit throttle trim 2-5 step up. Same thing keep on happening.. Fuel is VP 25%.

In my experience with Nitro engines. If you have to keep the glow ignighter attached to the plug. Then the plug NEEDS to be changed. I have been told to only use Nova glowplugs on Nova engines. You always should change the plug after breakin.
Just what I have been tought/ advised. I hope this helps You. :)