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houston 04-06-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 10568006)
Drake made pitstops at 12 min. during the Psycho Nitro Blast a few weeks ago with that engine. Stock? Don't know :)

awesome , good to hear

i watched Billy's at the nitro challenge and knew it was not a bonito ;)

psr 04-07-2012 08:29 AM

Hi guys im probley asking the wrong questern here as you are all nova doods

but im second guessing my choice to run nova engines this year i mean im stoked about fuel economy however geting the tune balanced and both my btta seem to just not have that oomph if you guys get my drift

houston 04-07-2012 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by psr (Post 10570924)
Hi guys im probley asking the wrong questern here as you are all nova doods

but im second guessing my choice to run nova engines this year i mean im stoked about fuel economy however geting the tune balanced and both my btta seem to just not have that oomph if you guys get my drift

Post your whole setup

If you are trying to use the plus4 in truggy , you will feel there is not much "oomph" or punch

TommyBlazin 04-07-2012 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by psr (Post 10570924)
Hi guys im probley asking the wrong questern here as you are all nova doods

but im second guessing my choice to run nova engines this year i mean im stoked about fuel economy however geting the tune balanced and both my btta seem to just not have that oomph if you guys get my drift

dont 2nd guess novarossi bro that would be a big mistake..i ran the plus 4 <first version> modded by houston, and i have to say it idled all day, held a perfect tune, power for miles,pitted at 10 min with PLENTY i mean PLENTY in tank, probably one of the most "usable " powered novarossi's i ever ran!!, yes post your pipe selection/plug/fuel/ and did you break it in, buy it 2nd hand...novarossi's are the ferrari of nitro, and they make more models than the plus 4, you can have as much power as your car/truggy can handle, and than some.....

FLDan 04-07-2012 04:01 PM

A P5 will cure that ailment.:)

DR.Vanostrum 04-07-2012 04:27 PM

hey
 
hey guys acquried a p5 new done by clockwerks of canada with matching nova pipe what should i really expect from this engine in a k car mp9 drivability tune and economy this is only my second nitro engine,coming from a .21 jammin and jp3 pipe

hookem34 04-07-2012 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by DR.Vanostrum (Post 10572022)
hey guys acquried a p5 new done by clockwerks of canada with matching nova pipe what should i really expect from this engine in a k car mp9 drivability tune and economy this is only my second nitro engine,coming from a .21 jammin and jp3 pipe

Expect pure insanity! That engine will scream and put a permanent smile on your face. Just make sure you dial in your radio throtle settings and tune your clutch properly for buggy.

psr 04-07-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 10571919)
dont 2nd guess novarossi bro that would be a big mistake..i ran the plus 4 <first version> modded by houston, and i have to say it idled all day, held a perfect tune, power for miles,pitted at 10 min with PLENTY i mean PLENTY in tank, probably one of the most "usable " powered novarossi's i ever ran!!, yes post your pipe selection/plug/fuel/ and did you break it in, buy it 2nd hand...novarossi's are the ferrari of nitro, and they make more models than the plus 4, you can have as much power as your car/truggy can handle, and than some.....

ok its now in a mp9 i run 30 % nitro with a 9901 pipe and a novac6 plug both items are brought new tha latest one has only just on 2 ltrs of fuel i know its not drop its nut yet

we have a few people wjho race theses were i am some set theres up slightly rich on the bottom and lean up top and the other groups say kept it lean on the bottom and rich

both engines are bog stockers run time is awesome over 11 min with fuel still in tank no problems

TommyBlazin 04-07-2012 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by psr (Post 10572225)
ok its now in a mp9 i run 30 % nitro with a 9901 pipe and a novac6 plug both items are brought new tha latest one has only just on 2 ltrs of fuel i know its not drop its nut yet

we have a few people wjho race theses were i am some set theres up slightly rich on the bottom and lean up top and the other groups say kept it lean on the bottom and rich

both engines are bog stockers run time is awesome over 11 min with fuel still in tank no problems

sounds good so far, AND yes you are far from droppin nuts,whats your clutch setup like, and weight of flywheel <aluminum or steel>

aussies1129 04-07-2012 09:29 PM

so has anyone run the roma was thinking of trying it in the truggy, but would like to see what people are getting for run times.
cheers

DR.Vanostrum 04-07-2012 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by hookem34 (Post 10572096)
Expect pure insanity! That engine will scream and put a permanent smile on your face. Just make sure you dial in your radio throtle settings and tune your clutch properly for buggy.

what kinda run time ??

houston 04-07-2012 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 10573016)
so has anyone run the roma was thinking of trying it in the truggy, but would like to see what people are getting for run times.
cheers

its not in public hands yet , i watched billy's at nitro challenge fairly closely , it has mucho BALLS

something to remember , two different people can take the same exact engine setup and one could get 7 min and the other get 12 , its not "just" the engine guys ;)

aussies1129 04-07-2012 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 10573030)
its not in public hands yet , i watched billy's at nitro challenge fairly closely , it has mucho BALLS

something to remember , two different people can take the same exact engine setup and one could get 7 min and the other get 12 , its not "just" the engine guys ;)

I believe that:nod: I myself have been to heavy on the throttle:cry:
cheers

thorns 04-08-2012 02:43 AM

has anyone used the Protek bearings from Amain in there Novas?
Looking to replace all mine and looking at those. I see they also offer ceramics for not much more, is it worthwhile going for the ceramic one?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...filter_cat=158

Also, does the Hudy bearing puller tool work fine on Nova sized bearings?

FLDan 04-08-2012 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by thorns (Post 10573537)
has anyone used the Protek bearings from Amain in there Novas?
Looking to replace all mine and looking at those. I see they also offer ceramics for not much more, is it worthwhile going for the ceramic one?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...filter_cat=158

Also, does the Hudy bearing puller tool work fine on Nova sized bearings?

The Hudy bearing puller has been one of the best r/c investments I've made in a long time. Yes, it fits Nova's.:nod:

psr 04-08-2012 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 10572287)
sounds good so far, AND yes you are far from droppin nuts,whats your clutch setup like, and weight of flywheel <aluminum or steel>

stock mp9 clutch and fly wheel set up alloy clutches alloy fly wheel

aussies1129 04-08-2012 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by thorns (Post 10573537)
has anyone used the Protek bearings from Amain in there Novas?
Looking to replace all mine and looking at those. I see they also offer ceramics for not much more, is it worthwhile going for the ceramic one?

http://www.amainhobbies.com/advanced...filter_cat=158

Also, does the Hudy bearing puller tool work fine on Nova sized bearings?

the hudy bearing puller is awesome:nod: removes and installs bearing very easy, a guy I race with tried the proteks but I remember him saying that the nova bearings are not cheap but the quality is the best:nod: I think the nova steel bearings are probably better than other brand ceremics;)

thorns 04-08-2012 04:25 AM

Thanks guys, helpful stuff!

One other quick question in regards to the rear bearing (Nova P5), is it 25.4, or 25.8 OD?
In the title here is says 25.8, but then in the text 25.4.....

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...P5X-421BS-528X

TommyBlazin 04-08-2012 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by psr (Post 10573599)
stock mp9 clutch and fly wheel set up alloy clutches alloy fly wheel

you should be set, what are your needles at, and about what temps is she running?

xc7 04-08-2012 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by thorns (Post 10573644)
Thanks guys, helpful stuff!

One other quick question in regards to the rear bearing (Nova P5), is it 25.4, or 25.8 OD?
In the title here is says 25.8, but then in the text 25.4.....

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...P5X-421BS-528X

it is 14x25.8x6mm

psr 04-08-2012 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 10573903)
you should be set, what are your needles at, and about what temps is she running?

she comes in pretty hot but we dont measure by temp over here backwards i spose but spit sizzles on the head top end is basicly flush

Blakeh44 04-08-2012 09:40 AM

P5 xlt runtime?
 
Jost bought one one of the bad boys. First nova motor. What kind of runtime do u guys get out of it? Any advice on restrictor size/carb tricks? Thanks!

houston 04-08-2012 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Blakeh44 (Post 10574646)
Jost bought one one of the bad boys. First nova motor. What kind of runtime do u guys get out of it? Any advice on restrictor size/carb tricks? Thanks!

Runtimes are very dependant on your pipe /plug/clutch/tune and throttle control

Ive seen almost every engine get 7min and 12min in different hand

Recommend 2096ss/41021 for pipeset , 7mm restrictor , c5tgc or odonnell 97t plug for break in then c5tgc or c6tgc after engine comes in to its own

Lille-bror 04-08-2012 03:00 PM

Just tried my 2084 for the very first time today. Good damn, it gives bottom end power! :nod: Very impressed. We needs a lot of bottom on our local track, so that pipe is perfect :).

.. and nice crispy sound btw.

megasaxon 04-08-2012 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 10575640)
Just tried my 2084 for the very first time today. Good damn, it gives bottom end power! :nod: Very impressed. We needs a lot of bottom on our local track, so that pipe is perfect :).

.. and nice crispy sound btw.

I love the 2084 on my P5XLT, killer pipe

houston 04-08-2012 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 10575640)
Just tried my 2084 for the very first time today. Good damn, it gives bottom end power! :nod: Very impressed. We needs a lot of bottom on our local track, so that pipe is perfect :).

.. and nice crispy sound btw.

Have you tried or are you guys allowed to run 9853ss pipe Bjarne?

RePeTe 04-08-2012 07:05 PM

So whats the going rate on a P/S/R on a BTT?

Short story, My less than 20 tank old BTT went from metal pinch to OS compression from a sweet pitstop featuring 50/50 dirt to fuel.

Engine still runs and idles, but i dont know how long she has. In the process of tearing it down but i dont have any Flat head drivers (wtf put some real screws in there nova). I can see a nice dirt pile in my crank though through the intake.

megasaxon 04-08-2012 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by RePeTe (Post 10576718)
So whats the going rate on a P/S/R on a BTT?

Short story, My less than 20 tank old BTT went from metal pinch to OS compression from a sweet pitstop featuring 50/50 dirt to fuel.

Engine still runs and idles, but i dont know how long she has. In the process of tearing it down but i dont have any Flat head drivers (wtf put some real screws in there nova). I can see a nice dirt pile in my crank though through the intake.

actually i like the flat heads, they are easier to get out that a hex head if they are really stuck in there

rcindia 04-08-2012 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by FLDan (Post 10573563)
The Hudy bearing puller has been one of the best r/c investments I've made in a long time. Yes, it fits Nova's.:nod:

I am planning to get one. Any attachments to be brought additional? My Plus 4 is due for a rebuild. Also will any other tools be required for rebuild? This will be my first rebuild.

Please suggest the correct bearings for the Plus 4?

PERROTTO 04-08-2012 11:04 PM

FYI guys...all u need is some heat and gentle persuasion to get the bearings out. Removed tons of bearings easily without pullers. The pullers would b handy but too expensive for my taste.

aussies1129 04-09-2012 01:41 AM

was thinking of a novarossi roma with a 2084/21 pipe combo in my truggy I wonder how that combo would go??? what sort of combo are the pros using with this engine at the moment and would be good to know what carb inserts?? maybe 7mm? cheers

Maximo 04-09-2012 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 10577729)
was thinking of a novarossi roma with a 2084/21 pipe combo in my truggy I wonder how that combo would go??? what sort of combo are the pros using with this engine at the moment and would be good to know what carb inserts?? maybe 7mm? cheers

chances are 9886 would suit the Roma a pile better then the 2084....2084 kills upper midrange and top end for a tiny extra boost in the bottom........A engine like the Roma will have a pile of its own natural tourque and wont need the help of the 2084.......You wont need to sacrifice all that top end....to me the 2084 is too much like the 9853, a little extra bottom end in exchange for a big sacrifice to midrange and top end.....

edit.... Not trying to take anything away from the 2084....its just that the Roma most likely already has a strong bottom end, so adding on a 9853 type pipe may be going too far in the one direction...usually large engine do better on RPM type pipes, as the bigger engines already have a pile of low end torque and usually need the most help on the top end....!

FLDan 04-09-2012 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by rcindia (Post 10577264)
I am planning to get one. Any attachments to be brought additional? My Plus 4 is due for a rebuild. Also will any other tools be required for rebuild? This will be my first rebuild.

Please suggest the correct bearings for the Plus 4?

No additional attachments needed for the Hudy..

You may want to find screwdrivers that fit those nova screws. I have personally modified a couple of flat heads, one for the head and one for the backplate screws. You just have to be careful, as they'll strip easily if you use the wrong size tool.

Most places selling engine bearings will have a list on which bearings fit which engines.. I can tell you that most .21's and .28's require 7X19x6 size front bearings. You just have to do a little research. Hope this helps.:)

Lille-bror 04-09-2012 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 10576309)
Have you tried or are you guys allowed to run 9853ss pipe Bjarne?

Hi. Haven't tried it Monty, and we are not allowed to use in races here in Denmark :)

fordman277 04-09-2012 04:29 PM

p5xlt
 
is the p5xlt being discontinued?

houston 04-09-2012 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by fordman277 (Post 10580676)
is the p5xlt being discontinued?

dont believe so , why you say that?

fordman277 04-09-2012 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 10580763)
dont believe so , why you say that?

My cousin thinks he's knows everything and said that but overall is it a good motor to get?

megasaxon 04-09-2012 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by fordman277 (Post 10581054)
My cousin thinks he's knows everything and said that but overall is it a good motor to get?

na the P5 will likely be around for a while, maybe some minor updates like they have over the past few years, but still the same basic engine.

The P5XLT is an awesome engine, lots of grunt, really good engine for buggy and plenty for a truggy too

aussies1129 04-09-2012 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 10578295)
chances are 9886 would suit the Roma a pile better then the 2084....2084 kills upper midrange and top end for a tiny extra boost in the bottom........A engine like the Roma will have a pile of its own natural tourque and wont need the help of the 2084.......You wont need to sacrifice all that top end....to me the 2084 is too much like the 9853, a little extra bottom end in exchange for a big sacrifice to midrange and top end.....

edit.... Not trying to take anything away from the 2084....its just that the Roma most likely already has a strong bottom end, so adding on a 9853 type pipe may be going too far in the one direction...usually large engine do better on RPM type pipes, as the bigger engines already have a pile of low end torque and usually need the most help on the top end....!

thanks Neil some very good info thats what I am looking for cheers

Aleq 04-10-2012 04:16 AM

Guys, i'm looking to get a Nova engine for my truggy. Wondered why not, i'm getting a Serpent S811T, lets start all new, also the engine :)


I have been running a Werks B5/2013-2058 and love it, never had a problem with it and it runs good. But i wanted to try something else.

Heared alot about the Bonito, so that mill has my interest, but what will be the diferences with a Werks B5? Also will a Bonito run good with a 2058 or 2013 pipe? How is the bottom & top end from the Bonito?

Like to hear about this mill


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