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071crazy 09-25-2014 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Autocratic (Post 13554950)
Is the Plus 4-BTT still a good option for a buggy?

Excellent option still.

There will be all sorts of opinions with header/pipe, but I don't think you can go wrong with the 9901/41021 combo.

G35Turbo 09-25-2014 12:43 PM

Does anyone have more info on the new Novarossi 41031 manifold?

http://www.amain.com/Novarossi-41031...nifold/p360742

Grinder 09-25-2014 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by G35Turbo (Post 13556584)
Does anyone have more info on the new Novarossi 41031 manifold?

http://www.amain.com/Novarossi-41031...nifold/p360742

I've driven it on several different engines. It made all of them noticeably more powerful compared to the 41021. It drinks more fuel though.

FrankMueller 09-25-2014 05:38 PM

I have two P5 's on my Workbench taking apart. one crankpin measures 4.9 mm the other 4.8 My question is 4.8 to much worn. only 2 gallons on both.

Jerm13 09-25-2014 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by FrankMueller (Post 13557046)
I have two P5 's on my Workbench taking apart. one crankpin measures 4.9 mm the other 4.8 My question is 4.8 to much worn. only 2 gallons on both.

Frank... Those engines are toast. Give them to me. I will take off your hands:lol:

For real though, 4.8 is not that bad. I measured mine brand spankin new Clio ( newer version of the P5) and it was at 4.95, So I think you should be fine.

cczjordan 09-25-2014 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by FrankMueller (Post 13557046)
I have two P5 's on my Workbench taking apart. one crankpin measures 4.9 mm the other 4.8 My question is 4.8 to much worn. only 2 gallons on both.

If it still running right then good to go unless it wont. If only 2 gallon then during break in period, not enuff heat generated to run the motor. It stress the conrod n the pin...

sn47som1 09-26-2014 09:58 AM

Whats up fellow Novarossi fanatics :) Does anyone have a factory setting for the idle screw? How many turns out or in for a good start point. Thank you

22Racer 09-26-2014 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by FrankMueller (Post 13557046)
I have two P5 's on my Workbench taking apart. one crankpin measures 4.9 mm the other 4.8 My question is 4.8 to much worn. only 2 gallons on both.

Depending on how accurately it is being measured. If it is truly 4.8 that is worn .006" or more and is way too much. I am assuming you are using a caliper, a micrometer is more accurate. With the crank worn that bad the rod will also have wear and you could have .010" total slop which will not last long. I consider .003" total slop or worse a back up engine.

Rex

Eivind E 09-26-2014 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 13557143)
4.8 is not that bad

4.8 is very bad.
You are right that at new they are 4.95, I get the same measurement on mine.
However, my engines when worn to the point that they have so little compression that they don't run right, generally tend to measure around 4.88-4.91.

Now this is where it gets interesting, engines that have been re-pinched and then ran a whole lot, end up measuring at 4.82-4.86.

My friend recently had his con rod come out through the crank case on an engine that had been re-pinched and ran at least 5-6 gallons after that.
The last time I measured the crank pin it was 4.81-82 and I warned him that this could cause a catastrophic failure. Sure enough, boom, rod through the crankcase.

So no, 4.8 isn't fine, 4.88 might be fine for a while, but 4.82 definately is not fine.

G35Turbo 09-26-2014 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 13556664)
I've driven it on several different engines. It made all of them noticeably more powerful compared to the 41021. It drinks more fuel though.

Thanks for the info. How much less was your run time per tank?

Jerm13 09-26-2014 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Eivind E (Post 13558566)
4.8 is very bad.
You are right that at new they are 4.95, I get the same measurement on mine.
However, my engines when worn to the point that they have so little compression that they don't run right, generally tend to measure around 4.88-4.91.

Now this is where it gets interesting, engines that have been re-pinched and then ran a whole lot, end up measuring at 4.82-4.86.

My friend recently had his con rod come out through the crank case on an engine that had been re-pinched and ran at least 5-6 gallons after that.
The last time I measured the crank pin it was 4.81-82 and I warned him that this could cause a catastrophic failure. Sure enough, boom, rod through the crankcase.

So no, 4.8 isn't fine, 4.88 might be fine for a while, but 4.82 definately is not fine.

Im glad to see someone say why someone else is wrong. To many times on line, you get that "you are wrong" and that's it. ;)

Keying into what I was and wasn't saying, not "that bad" but yes bad none the less. Problem is when you measure something that small and precise and leave such a big open ended number ( 4.8mm) when it should have at least 2 or 3 numbers after the decimal. And Frank didn't really specify where he should have.

question about your buddys motor? Did the rod break or did the crank pin sheer? I really don't see a worn crank pin could snap a rod and shove it thru the case. But that's just me. Harmonics? Vibrations?

If Im wrong, enlighten me some more. Im a knowledge whore!:lol:

cczjordan 09-27-2014 12:52 AM

Due to the cost, imo wen it stil running right, y change it. We all know Novarossi parts are costly.

Grinder 09-29-2014 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by G35Turbo (Post 13558689)
Thanks for the info. How much less was your run time per tank?

I'm getting about 30 seconds less per tank in truggy.

Lille-bror 09-29-2014 06:42 AM

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Lille-bror 09-29-2014 07:21 AM

The Efra 2032 (not approved anymore) with a Novarossi 41001 header is a living beast with better mileage than 9901/41001.
My pinched, rebuild BTT out-ran any other engine at a race this summer... and it was fitted with a 6mm mizer venturi. Very impressed :D



Originally Posted by 071crazy (Post 13556288)
Excellent option still.

There will be all sorts of opinions with header/pipe, but I don't think you can go wrong with the 9901/41021 combo.



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