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monkeygrip 04-26-2013 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by renemx250 (Post 12087635)
JOE,

CRE is the real deal. Neal is very knowlegable with all motors and problems. CRE Team is huge. They are a very reputable company. The only thing you know about motors are the airfilters. You only know if its dirty and if its time to change it. Let's face it ED is the brains behind Lucky 7 engines.

The CRE engines ran flawless at silverstate this weekend. No FLAME OUTS and no one running out of fuel in 9 mins.

So for you people who have questions Neal is your man and Houston. They are the nova experts.


I am not choosing sides on this silly disscussion:rolleyes: but I will say IMO, Joe IS very knowledgable with engines and all other aspects of racing rc cars. He learned many things from Ed, as did others plus many years of real track testing and racing at a high level:tire:

You can find truth in many statements on the novarossi, CRE, houston, and
L7 threads, for instance "o'donnell glow plugs do suck" "os plugs slightly lower compression but do work fine in nova engines" "there is no issue with L7 air filters"


Those of us that have been doing this a while know this but many people are knowledgeable on nitro engines. some of them are on here:D some are not:spidey: some are in jail:deathstar some have moved on to other things:cool: and some actually dont care to share info from a desk and keyboard:batman:

Maximo 04-26-2013 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by jonw (Post 12088387)
So what is the best/most common practice on air filter changes. Pre-oiled, not pre-oiled, what type of oil to use? Proper cleaning of the fiilter assembly? This seems to be the main problem with engines getting hurt, just curious what everyone does? Does Nova have a guideline?

I beehive a big issue is many of the filters are just too small......... The worst offender being the Losi filter setup.... I see the most contaminated engines with this setup..... The best filter is the OS filter setup.... I have found he old school single stage marshmallows protect the engine much better then the new smaller two stage filters.....I also have had good luck with the classic OFNA filters, but they are a little large for a Buggy.............. We have also seen good results with the outerwears filter bag.... So in summary a single stage is better then a two stage, and the larger the filter diameter the better......

And I oil my own filters, and I use several different oils...depending if I am at my house or my shop LOL......


I also judge the airfilters performance by the crankshaft...the more scratches on the crankshaft, the more dirt that has been ingested ! doesn't matter how clean the filter looks on the inside, its the marks on the crankshaft that tell the true story ! ..

kgombe 04-26-2013 06:10 AM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 12088119)
Just got 2 BTT's, one Toro Nero and a 9901/29 pipe set from a XRAY team member for whom I break-in his engines (Ninjas now). Don't know if there are too worn out to run ok, but I will for sure give it a try :). The crank pin on the Toro is only 4,85 mm, so as far as I know, its damn close to be too small. Time will tell :)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...20110302_n.jpg

min. should be 4.92... so that crank is done...

monkeygrip 04-26-2013 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 12088439)
I beehive a big issue is many of the filters are just too small......... The worst offender being the Losi filter setup.... I see the most contaminated engines with this setup..... The best filter is the OS filter setup.... I have found he old school single stage marshmallows protect the engine much better then the new smaller two stage filters.....I also have had good luck with the classic OFNA filters, but they are a little large for a Buggy.............. We have also seen good results with the outerwears filter bag.... So in summary a single stage is better then a two stage, and the larger the filter diameter the better......

And I oil my own filters, and I use several different oils...depending if I am at my house or my shop LOL......


I also judge the airfilters performance by the crankshaft...the more scratches on the crankshaft, the more dirt that has been ingested ! doesn't matter how clean the filter looks on the inside, its the marks on the crankshaft that tell the true story ! ..

you should check out the new single stage mugen filter like comes with the mbx7. low profile, big, and single stage, Its the best of everything:D

EBMods 04-26-2013 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by monkeygrip (Post 12088451)
you should check out the new single stage mugen filter like comes with the mbx7. low profile, big, and single stage, Its the best of everything:D

OS old school 201 is my all time favorite.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZ77

Maximo 04-26-2013 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by EBMods (Post 12088475)
OS old school 201 was my all time favorite.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZ77

100% agree with you on that one !

BradS 04-26-2013 06:27 AM

Looking for feedback on the new keep off vs btt. Is it worth the extra money to get the keep off? What differences have you guys noticed running both?

jonw 04-26-2013 07:07 AM

Thanks!


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 12088439)
I beehive a big issue is many of the filters are just too small......... The worst offender being the Losi filter setup.... I see the most contaminated engines with this setup..... The best filter is the OS filter setup.... I have found he old school single stage marshmallows protect the engine much better then the new smaller two stage filters.....I also have had good luck with the classic OFNA filters, but they are a little large for a Buggy.............. We have also seen good results with the outerwears filter bag.... So in summary a single stage is better then a two stage, and the larger the filter diameter the better......

And I oil my own filters, and I use several different oils...depending if I am at my house or my shop LOL......


I also judge the airfilters performance by the crankshaft...the more scratches on the crankshaft, the more dirt that has been ingested ! doesn't matter how clean the filter looks on the inside, its the marks on the crankshaft that tell the true story ! ..


kgombe 04-26-2013 07:18 AM

pretty much the same engine difference is the rear bearing and the block made to fit the rear bearing...

am 04-26-2013 12:56 PM

Thereo is also alot of guys just oiling the inner filter when two stage airfilters are used. Thats just insane...

Punter69 04-26-2013 02:06 PM

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here it is. there is so much slop in the conrod too now i've got it back together

Jaz240 04-26-2013 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by am (Post 12089585)
Thereo is also alot of guys just oiling the inner filter when two stage airfilters are used. Thats just insane...

People do that for a reason. The outer filter, when oiled will cause fine dust and dirt to stick to it. When its dry, most of the dirt and dust will bounce off instead. It helps prevent your filter from getting gunked up with dirt and makes it harder for dirt to actually penetrate through since most of it is bouncing off instead of sticking. I have countless customers who ask for filters that are only the inner foam is pre-oiled.

rallyebmx 04-26-2013 03:16 PM

OS is gonna have a surge in filter sales

aussies1129 04-26-2013 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by rallyebmx (Post 12090034)
OS is gonna have a surge in filter sales

At $33 a filter I don't think I will be rushing out
For one:D

bigjayjay1 04-26-2013 11:29 PM

I love my filters there drama free.. :D


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