Thanks chopper I got it pretty damn close and am very happy with how it is right now. I would love to see a video on the plug debate. Thanks again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riiBq...ature=youtu.be

0:54 (c6tgc) and 2:35 (p4) are good idles the difference is noticeable in the video, but in real life, its even more noticeable. yeah i know, the c6tgc idle was higher than the p4 but you can still tell the difference.



Dont mind the crude tune, havn't tuned it for a week so its pretty off from where it should be. (and don't duplicate what I was doing with the needles lol)

The video clearly shows that there is NO problems switching between plugs, convinced yet guys?

great to hear, if you have any other questions, just ask.

Loving my P5. Getting right at 9 min per tank with c6 plug and re12 pipe. Smooth power.

Im sorry , you are right ,i should've known

Oh Houston. Ones beliefs only go as far as he can preach them as long as they listen.

proof is in the video

so true

I can tune ANY plug in ANY engine if all things are right , guaranteed

And i am not talkin out my ass

Your video really only shows lack of tuning ability , i know it sounds harsh but it is very true

I am a completely no BS kinda guy , ask around , you will see


I support novarossi factory the best i can , they know this

There was a period of a few years where i would not use the nova plugs , i recommended other brands ( not OS ) , they remedied the issue , all is well now

Like I said, I didn't try to tune it, the tune was off, I just wanted it running.

I actually was just outside getting the tune perfect.

I will post you a video tomorrow to show the engine absolutely perfectly tuned with both plugs ok and then we can't complain about lack of tuning ability.

As you can see, the servo was out of the car, car was not run for a week and a half, no reason for me to try and tune it. But fine, I'll take a video tomorrow.

Ok maybe you can tune any plug on any engine, well, c6tgc in P5 kept flaming out, nobody at the track can figure it out, installed OS P4 plug, issues remedied instantly.

I will take a better video with the thing tuned perfect so everyone can see and so there are no other problems skeptics can feed on.

I understand you support novarossi but when people have problems and they are using brand new nova plugs, they get mad and buy a whole new OS engine or any other engine thats not a Novarossi. As long as the engine runs fine regardless of the plug, the customer will be happy and will buy more Novarossi engines. Nova plugs should not be the only option customers have for their engines and it just so happens that for me and many others, it performs better.

I'll show it to you tuned with both plugs, nova and the OS.

Doesn't sound harsh, ok I understand the thing wasn't tuned in the video, I stated that already though, but tomorrow everyone will see a much better video with a perfectly tuned engine.

ok can't wait to see a video.. who cares.... fact remains.. is that YOU cant get it tuned on a Nova plug so what .. big deal... lots of people can't... so you choose a different plug.. SOOO WHHHAAAATTT..

But i can and lots of people can.. but again .. WHO CARES... let it die ... you got your engine running the way you like.. go ahead and run it ... jeeze...

very fair post chopper , kudos to you bro

if you have a hard time tuning use a c5tgc , much broader tuning window , i would much rather recommend an odonnell plug or werks plug over OS plugs , like i said i know they work but they are not the right "FIT" for novarossi head buttons

novarossi head buttons are designed with a combustion bowl that is pretty flat up towards the taper , there is a specific reason for this but in turn it has much less material in the bottom part of the seal area , this is why the short taper plugs will deform the bowl , when you put a long taper back in it is not touching the last 35-40% of the taper towards the bottom .

some people try to discredit what i know for there own vendictive reasons which you dont know , i know very well what i am talking about , read through all the threads where racers have followed my advice and never had such an easy time running nitro bro


i try my damdest to help , i really do , if it falls on def ears i cant help that

and btw , your idling issues are coming from putting a long taper plug back into a deformed hole , the plug does not seal properly anymore , they do not like to idle and will run a little warmer and inconsistent , ive seen it hundreds if not thousands of times

perrotto is no dummy , his stuff always runs great and he is a great problem solver

I am coming from E buggy and going nitro and you guys have been very helpful but I have another question about tuning. When a motor is idling and it starts to idle higher instead of doing a drop idle does that mean that the bottom is very lean or is there something else going on?

Your video proves abosutely nothing. You are flaming out with the with the nova plug because when the engine gets hot enough the taper area in the button expands slightly and causes a leak, because you created a new taper with the OS plug. Never once did i say that it wont run right with the OS plug, but it will never run the same if you attempt to run any other turbo plugs like OD, nova ect. Like I said I have experienced this before more than just a couple times. If you put a new head button on there and go run it agin with your nova plug you will understand.

many times i find its a tank pressure issue , to compensate you will have to give it a "false" tune

I just did a tank pressure test under water and if I blow real hard I get bubbles. That could explain my tuning issue.