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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15170805)
Did you buy that from absolute? If They are using the good head and block on the extra long stroke paloma im getting one.
Yes I did. Bought it for $150 shipped on their ebay store On their site, https://www.absolutehobbyz.com/Novarossi-Rex-Paloma-21-Off-Road-7-Port-Engine-Extra-Long-Stroke-Steel-Bearings_p_512781.html |
Just bought a mantra today. I have a 9901/41021 in my pit bag, I will go ahead and try it out once run in. Anyone have feedback with other pipe manifold combos for this engine?
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how many more tanks do you guys put on the factory break in motors before throwing the race tune on them
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Originally Posted by jpz_67
(Post 15193866)
Just bought a mantra today. I have a 9901/41021 in my pit bag, I will go ahead and try it out once run in. Anyone have feedback with other pipe manifold combos for this engine?
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15193932)
how many more tanks do you guys put on the factory break in motors before throwing the race tune on them
I then did 4th tank same needle settings (factory setting) at 1/4 throttle. With head wrap on trying to keep it above 200°F 5th and 6th tank 1/2 throttle 7th at 3/4 8th I started closing the HSN a little By the 10th tank I was adjusting for a nice tune in the slight rich side. This is just me from all the research I have made. Maybe someone else has a different method. |
I was looking at the Nova Rolling, and I was wondering how this engine compares to the Virtus and the Bonito? They're all 7 porters, but are there any timing differences between them? Power and fuel consumption?
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Originally Posted by IOP_Racer
(Post 15194054)
I was told that the 41031/2096 combo has the most power. I am running the 9901/031 combo and the motor has a lot of power. I think you will be happy with the combo you have.
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Originally Posted by captain america
(Post 15195032)
I was looking at the Nova Rolling, and I was wondering how this engine compares to the Virtus and the Bonito? They're all 7 porters, but are there any timing differences between them? Power and fuel consumption?
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15196556)
Ive got a rolling and a keep off 7xls . ill post up after next weekend how i feel they compare
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it looks like the crank on the rolling has quite a bit of timing, the backplate is machined like the p5xlt-16, not flat as pictured on the novarossi site. the card that came with it(its a factory prerun) says it was up to 36600 rpm so it must have some legs
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Trying to decide on an inexpensive engine for a tekno nb48.4. I'd like to stay around $150. I'm thinking it's between the Paloma Limited on novarossi direct, or the black S21P5XLT on amain. From what I've read in a few other threads, it sounds like the Paloma would be the better choice with the idea of possibly taming it down a little with clutch. Does that sound like the right choice? For background, I'm no pro. This would be for club racing, outdoor, on a pretty loose track, once or twice a month through the summer.
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Originally Posted by joeyb_1369
(Post 15198384)
Trying to decide on an inexpensive engine for a tekno nb48.4. I'd like to stay around $150. I'm thinking it's between the Paloma Limited on novarossi direct, or the black S21P5XLT on amain. From what I've read in a few other threads, it sounds like the Paloma would be the better choice with the idea of possibly taming it down a little with clutch. Does that sound like the right choice? For background, I'm no pro. This would be for club racing, outdoor, on a pretty loose track, once or twice a month through the summer.
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Originally Posted by egobrkr
(Post 15198388)
I went with the novarossi 5port Adam Drake edition m. It was $200 from absolutehobby.com. They also have the novarossi Karma for $149 right now. https://www.absolutehobbyz.com/Novar..._p_512232.html
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Originally Posted by joeyb_1369
(Post 15198384)
Trying to decide on an inexpensive engine for a tekno nb48.4. I'd like to stay around $150. I'm thinking it's between the Paloma Limited on novarossi direct, or the black S21P5XLT on amain. From what I've read in a few other threads, it sounds like the Paloma would be the better choice with the idea of possibly taming it down a little with clutch. Does that sound like the right choice? For background, I'm no pro. This would be for club racing, outdoor, on a pretty loose track, once or twice a month through the summer.
I went with the Paloma. Still running it rich and the engine just screams! The S21P5XLT is a great engine as well. Check Novarossi Direct they have good prices. |
When buying a manifold from novarossi direct, does it include the springs?
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yes, and gaskets
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Originally Posted by joeyb_1369
(Post 15198400)
Just when you think you have it narrowed down. At least it seems there isn't really a bad decision in the bunch. I looked at the Adam Drake edition but, I couldn't find much about it other than it was based on a Clio P5. Do you like it?
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Can anyone explain the differences between the Mito 4 and the Mantra? The former is long-stroke and the latter is square, but what does that translate to in laymen's terms?
I'm guessing the larger bore of the Mantra will yield higher RPMs while the Mito is more torquey? |
well i didnt get a heck of a lot of running on the rolling but i really like the way it puts power down in truggy. even slobbering-ly rich it still had grunt to clear all the jumps it needed too but was still too new to really scream down the straight
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I have a keep off 4 that seems to 'pass" at the ports when the piston is going to tdc, it was pinched because it was flaming at idle and it feels tight but still has the same issue. Im wondering if i should get the block milled and replace the bearings and rod or just toss it because the liner and piston wont hold compression
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15207172)
I have a keep off 4 that seems to 'pass" at the ports when the piston is going to tdc, it was pinched because it was flaming at idle and it feels tight but still has the same issue. Im wondering if i should get the block milled and replace the bearings and rod or just toss it because the liner and piston wont hold compression
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15207172)
I have a keep off 4 that seems to 'pass" at the ports when the piston is going to tdc, it was pinched because it was flaming at idle and it feels tight but still has the same issue. Im wondering if i should get the block milled and replace the bearings and rod or just toss it because the liner and piston wont hold compression
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pm me your adresse shes all yours
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I am sure this has been covered and tried to do a search with no luck. I have heard you can take our a shim or two from Nova's once broken in compared to OS motors where you don't touch head shims. Any input is appreciated. Just picked up a Top 7-plus. Was planning on leaving head shims in for break in and then pulling as many as I can for performance.
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What novarossi are y’all using in truck!!?? |
Novarossi Rolling
I have been drivning my Kyosho TKI4 with my Novarossi Rolling on track this weekend. Started with 9901 pipe and 41001 manifold and 7.0 Venturi. This combo produced way to much power for me at this track. I then changed to Novarossi EFRA 2096 pipe and 41021 manifold. This made the car more driveable but still plenty of power. If you like me like alot of bottom end in buggy this may be your choice. The last 3 years i have been drivning OS engines, Speed 2 and B2101. Novarossi Rolling i find to have more power and equal top speed as my OS engines. Runtimes is a little better for me with the Rolling then my OS engines. I Always pit at 7.30 and my runtimes are always pretty bad regardless of What engine i use. But i get about 8min 30 Seconds of runtime so far with the Rolling. It is about 20 seconds better then with my OS engines. |
looks good, i ran the 41033/9901 on mine in truck, would be too much power as is for me in buggy
anyone have any info on the 24065 carb? I got a karma here and its a long needle carb but the bore looks to be about 7mm instead of the 8.3-8.4 normally with novas |
What’s everyone liking for pipe/header combo on Mantra in buggy for smoothness and mileage? |
What is the difference of the Hybrid mantra for the mantra
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Originally Posted by RandyJones
(Post 15211815)
What’s everyone liking for pipe/header combo on Mantra in buggy for smoothness and mileage? |
Originally Posted by juninho_foz
(Post 15212041)
What is the difference of the Hybrid mantra for the mantra
I think what I'm going to say is the correct. Mantra Hybrid 1 ceramic and other steel bearing Mantra Standard 2 steel bearings |
Hey how's it going. I got a couple of novas bonito 1gallon, btts? .5 gallon Barely used and bttwc/a new. From someone switching brands I was wondering what is the go to plugs for these engines. I mainly run Picco and the plug most people use is the #5 and alpha is t3 or lutz L4. I never used nova. Only rb concept which was nova based. I think I was using O'Donnell 97t plug in there. Just trying to see some suggestions thanks in this video Adam says c6tgc is that best plug im assuming. I found c6cto replaces c6tgc? |
C5tgn all condition is the best
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Would it be reasonable - with fuel mileage a non issue and max power desired; to use a 41031 manifold with a 9886SS on a P5XL Turbo engine? It’s going into an 8T 3.0 (Thanks Karl!). |
Originally Posted by sumpan77
(Post 15210996)
I have been drivning my Kyosho TKI4 with my Novarossi Rolling on track this weekend. Started with 9901 pipe and 41001 manifold and 7.0 Venturi. This combo produced way to much power for me at this track. I then changed to Novarossi EFRA 2096 pipe and 41021 manifold. This made the car more driveable but still plenty of power. If you like me like alot of bottom end in buggy this may be your choice. The last 3 years i have been drivning OS engines, Speed 2 and B2101. Novarossi Rolling i find to have more power and equal top speed as my OS engines. Runtimes is a little better for me with the Rolling then my OS engines. I Always pit at 7.30 and my runtimes are always pretty bad regardless of What engine i use. But i get about 8min 30 Seconds of runtime so far with the Rolling. It is about 20 seconds better then with my OS engines. https://youtu.be/IxxhMdn2Q4c Below you can see how it performs. |
Originally Posted by jpz_67
(Post 15193866)
Just bought a mantra today. I have a 9901/41021 in my pit bag, I will go ahead and try it out once run in. Anyone have feedback with other pipe manifold combos for this engine?
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Originally Posted by HaulinBass
(Post 15196556)
Ive got a rolling and a keep off 7xls . ill post up after next weekend how i feel they compare
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absolutely i like it allot in my truggy, It close on the top end to the keep off 7xls but with way more snap off the line where as the keep off seven liked to wait untill it hit mid range or ten feet out of the corner to start laying its all its power down.I think ive got the 41021 header and 9901ss on it right now, 1.0 springs with soar long life 7079 abc shoes.
i got one for my buddy as well hes running it in his d817 this year but i dont think he has it broke in yet hes going to be running the same 41021 2096 combo sumpan is The engine is the piston and sleeve of the virtus, mito crank and carb, normal rear bearing(no $100 replacements ha!), shifted carb of mito and virtus with the newer style backplate like the p5xlt16 |
Wow, $139 for the Paloma.. I don't even run my cars anymore, and still have numerous engines in perfect condition laying around, but that's a nice deal...
https://www.absolutehobbyz.com/Novar..._p_512781.html Unfortunately the 2 1/2 gallons or so of (Tornado %25) fuel I have is probably 3-4 years old by now. Tested it last summer in a few cars, and they all ran great.. Still... Been more into planes and quads the last few years, but I do miss the enthusiasm that went with getting a killer engine for a good deal ha ha... |
Speaking of Paloma, this weekend my engine would not start. It even ate the coils from the plugs. I was WTF is going on.
Yesterday I took the engine apart. The clay dirt gets everywhere, not even the oring can stop it! https://i.imgur.com/9wZpiGF.jpg?1 I then came to find that by not using after run oil after before putting the car away oxidation happens quickly! This is at 1 gallon of fuel. https://i.imgur.com/1KYrZjH.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/4qyynfE.jpg?1 Used the Novarossi after run oil and a rag to try and clean most of the rust off. https://i.imgur.com/wFksvrP.jpg?2 https://i.imgur.com/qjb4M0M.jpg?1 Will try and get it started during the week and make sure it is running ok. But comes to show what happens to these engines when not maintained properly. |
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