The New Werks B5 .21 Racing Engine
#1261
Hey Steve, Rick. Just got done doing some tuning on mine,maybe this will help. Idle gap with resrictor in is about 1/2 to 3/4s mil. HS I turned it in 1/2 turn from flush and another 3 hrs in. LS 1/2 turn out from flush but ended up turnig back in 3 hrs to get a better Idle.
Let mre know if this helps. Ill be at the track tomarrow for some well needed practice, like you didnt already know LOL. Oh yea I also have 2013 coming.
Let mre know if this helps. Ill be at the track tomarrow for some well needed practice, like you didnt already know LOL. Oh yea I also have 2013 coming.
#1262
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Mine will not perform until the HS needle is almost 2 full turns in from flush. LS needle is maybe 2 hrs in from flush to get the idle correct, my air gap is set at approx 1mm. I am running an oddonel 97 plug and a Werks 2013 pipe. This is the new style carb. I started from flush on top and bottom at 12 tanks to re-tune.Its just seems to be a lot in from flush on top, cause I guess I'm used to the B7, Where as it just needs the HS needle a few hrs in from flush to perform. Whatever it takes to make The B5 run I guess.
#1265
Glad someone else is right there with me.
Also when I bring it in from running it for a couple passes it takes approx 5 to 8 seconds for the idle to settle. Is yours doing this too? I mean the engine performs great its just when it does this I think my LSN is too lean.... and then it starts to idle correctly
#1266
Guys at my local track are liking the 2013 for great low end power and 10min plus run times.And my one buddy likes the 2057. He says he looses a little bottom but gains a little run time. IMO you cant go wrong with either
#1267
Hey guys, just waned to make a quick comment about all of the needle setting talk that is going on here. In all reality it is pointless because everyone is running their own individual and I should say unique set up. There Re a slew of variables to keep in mind. Different plug types/manufacturers (hence different temperatures), different fuels, different types of fuel tanks, different pipes, different fuels, different lenghts of fuel line and/or pressure lines and last but not least different atmospheric conditions (humidity, temp, elevation). All of these are going to make hughe difference in needle settings.
So the easiest way to do this when your engine is fully broken in is simply to set you HS flush, set your LS flush, set your idle gap to aprox. 0.5mm and fire it up. Then adjust your idle only using the LS needles (not the idle screw). Once you have this set warm up the engine/chassis and do some fast laps adjusting the hs to get the top that you want (range from half throtle and above). Once you have adjusted this and are back in the pits you will notice your idle speed has changed. So.. adjust your LS to get a smooth steady idle again and you are done. When alls said and done this should take less that 10 minutes to do and this system will work on any brand/type of engine. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ron
So the easiest way to do this when your engine is fully broken in is simply to set you HS flush, set your LS flush, set your idle gap to aprox. 0.5mm and fire it up. Then adjust your idle only using the LS needles (not the idle screw). Once you have this set warm up the engine/chassis and do some fast laps adjusting the hs to get the top that you want (range from half throtle and above). Once you have adjusted this and are back in the pits you will notice your idle speed has changed. So.. adjust your LS to get a smooth steady idle again and you are done. When alls said and done this should take less that 10 minutes to do and this system will work on any brand/type of engine. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ron
#1268
Ron thanks for chiming in. I know it sound really simple as it should be. I have read your posts and tried to follow your instructions. I thought I read one of your post stating to set the idle gap at 1 to 1.5mm. Is this only for beak in and then lessin it to 0.5mm after engine is fully broke in?
#1269
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Hey guys, just waned to make a quick comment about all of the needle setting talk that is going on here. In all reality it is pointless because everyone is running their own individual and I should say unique set up. There Re a slew of variables to keep in mind. Different plug types/manufacturers (hence different temperatures), different fuels, different types of fuel tanks, different pipes, different fuels, different lenghts of fuel line and/or pressure lines and last but not least different atmospheric conditions (humidity, temp, elevation). All of these are going to make hughe difference in needle settings.
So the easiest way to do this when your engine is fully broken in is simply to set you HS flush, set your LS flush, set your idle gap to aprox. 0.5mm and fire it up. Then adjust your idle only using the LS needles (not the idle screw). Once you have this set warm up the engine/chassis and do some fast laps adjusting the hs to get the top that you want (range from half throtle and above). Once you have adjusted this and are back in the pits you will notice your idle speed has changed. So.. adjust your LS to get a smooth steady idle again and you are done. When alls said and done this should take less that 10 minutes to do and this system will work on any brand/type of engine. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ron
So the easiest way to do this when your engine is fully broken in is simply to set you HS flush, set your LS flush, set your idle gap to aprox. 0.5mm and fire it up. Then adjust your idle only using the LS needles (not the idle screw). Once you have this set warm up the engine/chassis and do some fast laps adjusting the hs to get the top that you want (range from half throtle and above). Once you have adjusted this and are back in the pits you will notice your idle speed has changed. So.. adjust your LS to get a smooth steady idle again and you are done. When alls said and done this should take less that 10 minutes to do and this system will work on any brand/type of engine. Hope this helps!
Regards,
Ron
BTW, the engine sounds mean and nasty after the 6th tank
#1272
Ron thanks for chiming in. I know it sound really simple as it should be. I have read your posts and tried to follow your instructions. I thought I read one of your post stating to set the idle gap at 1 to 1.5mm. Is this only for beak in and then lessin it to 0.5mm after engine is fully broke in?
Yes, you start off at 1-1.5mm on a new engine for break in (white realy rich settings). Then each tank you lean the needles a hair which will elevate the idle and then you reduce the air gap to compensate. So at the end you should end up around 0.5mm on the air gap and with your LS set at whatever the appropriate setting is to give you the correct idle. Hope this helps!
Ron
#1275
Yes, you start off at 1-1.5mm on a new engine for break in (white realy rich settings). Then each tank you lean the needles a hair which will elevate the idle and then you reduce the air gap to compensate. So at the end you should end up around 0.5mm on the air gap and with your LS set at whatever the appropriate setting is to give you the correct idle. Hope this helps!
Ron
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