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dreaux 06-29-2010 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7606880)
I'm sorry we dont have a midget ed hopping out of the box to tune your engine for you, and if little bobby fails at tuning, then that is user error. I would like to know the ebmods team drivers name in your area?

midget ed:lol:

sickpuppy1 06-29-2010 08:23 PM

Any of you guys who are fed up with them, PM me and I'll give you my address where to mail it. I'll take that "boat anchor" you dont like,lol No charge!!I'll make it run.....

Mark K 06-29-2010 09:09 PM

I have 2 full mods and they both run great. The only difference between the 2 is the fact that I have different pipes on them. 086 on my buggy and 007 on my truggy (it's all i had on hand). I have good bottom end punch on both, and good top end on both. Top is a little better on the buggy but thats because it has the 086 pipe. My brother has a race prep on his truggy and his engine runs great also. We both use p4 plugs and Ed's fuel. They are great engines!

Jason Pelletier 06-29-2010 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by vince7870 (Post 7607407)
Damn y'all must be doing something wrong cuz ebmods gives me wings......os go and now js. Fast and consistant! No matter what engine line he touched and gave me. Idled like a dream off the start easy to tune and never lacking against anyone out there.

But the best part about this hobby is there is always options. And there ain't anything money can't fix!

If his engines don't work for you there is many more for you to try.

Enjoy the hobby and the thrill of shiney new shit

Ain't that the truth, You were running me hard at the barn this sunday. I couldn't get away from that JS !!!:tire:

jpalessi 06-29-2010 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by RB FIVE (Post 7608533)
Ain't that the truth, You were running me hard at the barn this sunday. I couldn't get away from that JS !!!:tire:

wait till he puts a .23 in his 808! :eek:

EB gives me wings! :tire::ha:

bopracer 06-29-2010 11:56 PM

HSN
 
Hey guys, are any of you guys having trouble with your HSN? When I first got my JS I noticed that the 'O' rings had broken and coming out of the top of the needle. I decided to get some new 'O' rings and installed them myself. What a mission! It was super tight and it did the same thing with the rubber coming out. It is also very tight to tune now, very, very tight.

Other than that, I really like it. I was getting 10+ minutes in the final the other day using a GO 2072 pipe with plenty of power :)

EBMods 06-30-2010 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by TheFcuddy (Post 7537115)
I gotta start over. My Full Mod is running alright but I don't think it's running like it could or should be. It's hauling my truggy around with good authority but I saw a race prep go today in a buggy and that had me asking questions. It sounded angry and it ran down my MTE and that thing is not slow. Honestly, it flat out distracted me while I was trying to drive. After the race I found out that angry sounding stupid fast engine was a race prep.

My setup: P5, RE10 Pipe, 30% Byrons

High Speed needle is 2.5 turns out from bottom or half a turn in from flush.

Low Speed is 3.5 + turns from the bottom or 1 1/4 in from flush.

I put a new plug in a few tanks ago, it currently has a shiny bronzed look on the face, the coil is greyish red, looks shot and the glows weak. These things are getting expensive...

I notice when I go to pit the engine is idling high, like the low speed is lean or my idle gap is too big. This only happens when I have the engine hot because I am worried about it flaming out when I am warming up the motor on the box, it's from one extreme to the other. Temp wise I am around 240 on my gun, for what that is worth. I feel like it's the low speed being too lean but only a few hour turns ago I was told I was too rich, pulling filaments out of plugs, browned plug faces, and flame outs. Now I might be too lean. My fuel mileage went out the window too, I needed to stop twice in a 20 min main. Two weeks ago I stopped once and still had fuel to spare. I am lost in the sauce here! Granted I am not flaming out and my truggy is jumping everything with ease, I know something is not right. This all stems back to a race prep blowing the doors off me and my Full Mod ain't turning heads like it should.


So this engine has been received and inspected, and the owner has been notified and admits to his error. This was a TRUE user error and not an engine problem or issue to clarify things. It would be nice if Cuddy could come in here and post and maybe apologize for the multiple post about the engine issues he was having that caused people to panic. When the engine problems were caused by his actions.


*** NOTE *** please NEVER bottom the LSN and count the number of turns out. This will damage the emulsion tube (spray-bar) This was not the issue with FCuddy's engine but I needed to point this out. Always set the LSN using the Flush with throttle arm method.

EBMods 06-30-2010 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by bopracer (Post 7608778)
Hey guys, are any of you guys having trouble with your HSN? When I first got my JS I noticed that the 'O' rings had broken and coming out of the top of the needle. I decided to get some new 'O' rings and installed them myself. What a mission! It was super tight and it did the same thing with the rubber coming out. It is also very tight to tune now, very, very tight.

Other than that, I really like it. I was getting 10+ minutes in the final the other day using a GO 2072 pipe with plenty of power :)

bopracer,
I am sorry to hear this... I inspect and flow all the carbs and usally find this problem before they ever leave the shop, but I guess this one stuck by me. Are you bottoming the HSN out when the O-Rings tear?

EBMods 06-30-2010 06:24 PM

http://www.ebmods.com/complete%20clutch.jpg

EBMods 06-30-2010 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by jborunda (Post 7607047)
I hope not to have so many problems like the guys above, and if I do have, i hope you can help me.

Thanks again


Please don't be fooled by the negative posts. 99% of the post in here are all positive. Help is always a phone call away....

EBMods 06-30-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7558583)
I saw a head snap off of a team drivers motor last weekend. He said it was the second one that he broke. Has anyone else had this problem.

If it's the second one then that means the first one was replaced? I haven't heard of anyone breaking heads off. Maybe you should let this Team Driver know I would VERY much like to speak with him.

T Wright 06-30-2010 07:36 PM

The new JS flywheel, clutches, & springs look good Ed. Cant wait to try them out.

I still dont understand where all this complaining is coming from. Customer service doesnt get any better than this guys! We are VERY lucky to have Joe and Ed answering all JS engine questions here. Dont listen to the haters...these engines scream!

jbright33 06-30-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by EBMods (Post 7612313)

I have been running this clutch setup for the last 2-3 months in my d8t with great success.

LUV DA AIR 06-30-2010 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by T Wright (Post 7612675)
The new JS flywheel, clutches, & springs look good Ed. Cant wait to try them out.

I still dont understand where all this complaining is coming from. Customer service doesnt get any better than this guys! We are VERY lucky to have Joe and Ed answering all JS engine questions here. Dont listen to the haters...these engines scream!

+1

Ive had more TQ and Wins this season than ever before and fighting an ARMY of Werks B5's with my full Mod JS. The tide is changing though and I think the Army is starting to DEFECT!:nod: If I cant get any shops to carry the engine here locally I may just have to become a dealer myself and buy a few. I would have no hesitation in doing so. As a matter of fact Ill be giving Joe a call in the morning to see what it will take to do so.:eek:

bopracer 07-01-2010 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by EBMods (Post 7612276)
bopracer,
I am sorry to hear this... I inspect and flow all the carbs and usally find this problem before they ever leave the shop, but I guess this one stuck by me. Are you bottoming the HSN out when the O-Rings tear?

No, they tear when just going in. I'm going to let our importer look at the carb over here. I'm sure he can sort something out for me. I guess having it tight ensures no air will leak.

Cheers.

Shoaf85 07-01-2010 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by LUV DA AIR (Post 7612898)
+1

Ive had more TQ and Wins this season than ever before and fighting an ARMY of Werks B5's with my full Mod JS. The tide is changing though and I think the Army is starting to DEFECT!:nod: If I cant get any shops to carry the engine here locally I may just have to become a dealer myself and buy a few. I would have no hesitation in doing so. As a matter of fact Ill be giving Joe a call in the morning to see what it will take to do so.:eek:

Check out my site if you are in need of these engines. I can have one to your door in 2 days from when you place the order!

www.twisted-rc.com/shop

Toiffel 07-01-2010 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7598318)
+1 i ran a brand new one today and it fired up and ran like a beast all day.

I saw that!!!!!

Fletcher6371 07-01-2010 09:54 AM

I had a couple problems with my engine. I talked to Ed and he had me send it in to him. He worked with me and I will be a returning customer to JS engines (Maybe clutches/pipes/.23 who knows :sneaky:) but I have NO complaints about this engine. at all. Great power band, run-time and most importantly customer service. Not many other engine companies can you call the company and actually talk to someone who knows what they are talking about and will help you as much as they can. JUST my .02.

jpalessi 07-01-2010 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Fletcher6371 (Post 7615164)
Not many other engine companies can you call the company and actually talk to someone who knows what they are talking about and will help you as much as they can. JUST my .02.

Thank you! We appreciate your business and your post. :)

TheFcuddy 07-01-2010 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by EBMods (Post 7612236)
So this engine has been received and inspected, and the owner has been notified and admits to his error. This was a TRUE user error and not an engine problem or issue to clarify things. It would be nice if Cuddy could come in here and post and maybe apologize for the multiple post about the engine issues he was having that caused people to panic. When the engine problems were caused by his actions.


*** NOTE *** please NEVER bottom the LSN and count the number of turns out. This will damage the emulsion tube (spray-bar) This was not the issue with FCuddy's engine but I needed to point this out. Always set the LSN using the Flush with throttle arm method.

I was having trouble with my JS and came on here looking for help because I could not find it anywhere else. Not one person would come down to the pits to help me out (I just moved to the area, new to 1/8 nitro and don't know many people). I came to a dead end and sent the engine to EBMods and it turns out I was at fault. Not surprised, I figured I had done something wrong. As far as me causing this "panic," I do not understand. I have nothing to do with a bitter ex-team driver or a vendor who has fails to pay accounts payable nor the controversy they cause. As far as help is concerned, I know where to find it now. Good luck to you guys.

Toiffel 07-02-2010 08:36 AM

Thank you Ed and Joe for excellent customer service!! I have always run either an engine-fuel or something EBMods, and can't say enough about how great the service has been!!

TonyWest 07-02-2010 10:23 AM

I guess it is time for me to address this Issue
 
I guess it is obvious that there is a disagreement with myself and Ed Bridges over a very small amount of money that has started to snow ball into something personal. We have both done favors:) for each other and the disagreement is over the value of those favors. I guess we will agree to disagree on this issue (there are always two sides to every story). Kinda sad because I like Ed and considered him a friend and we are going to fall out over a couple hundred dollars. I will step up and apologize for what was posted on our site as it could be considered mis leading. I can't speak on issues others have had with this line of motors, only how they perform since I only tested a race prep for a short period of time. Since this is a public form about JS Engines and we no longer sale them I don't think myself or company should be mentioned again on this forum. I do value Ed Bridges as a friend, Ed can you please give someone other than me a call at Waldorf RC so there can be some sort or resolution. I have attempted to contact you via phone and email and have had not luck. No need for all this negativity over such a small issue.

j_blaze14 07-04-2010 08:37 AM

just got a 1 gallon old vox stock, truggy or buggy?

skoalisbad4me 07-04-2010 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by j_blaze14 (Post 7626345)
just got a 1 gallon old vox stock, truggy or buggy?

buggy. unless you send it in for the full mod then truggy. just my .02 but me stock version screams in my buggy around the track

jpalessi 07-04-2010 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by j_blaze14 (Post 7626345)
just got a 1 gallon old vox stock, truggy or buggy?

i run stock .21 in my truck

Talon8T 07-05-2010 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by j_blaze14 (Post 7626345)
just got a 1 gallon old vox stock, truggy or buggy?

Either!!...Works great in both vehicles:nod:

bopracer 07-05-2010 03:56 PM

Would you consider using a P3 plug in colder temperatures such as 14 C which is about 58 F?

Cheers.

jpalessi 07-05-2010 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by bopracer (Post 7631565)
Would you consider using a P3 plug in colder temperatures such as 14 C which is about 58 F?

Cheers.

no.. p4 the hottest. I'm in new york and we run indoors all over the Northeast in the winter with brutal temperatures (below 50*) and i run a p4.

dreaux 07-05-2010 04:37 PM

I am really liking this motor from what i have seen. But i hear they tune very different then o.s. motors. I have 4 o.s. motors so it is all i know. Once i get a good idle i go to the hsn then the lsn that is how i tune. Alot of people i know tune o.s. motor with the lsn first. A cold natured motor is right up my ally as well:D

Now, i am figuring out which one to get. I still have a couple vspec's and ninja's so i am trying to figure out which one to put in a truggy. Should i get the stock or modd?

which one is the eisiest to tune? I want the full mod but if it's a touchy engine i will just go with the stock. I also have a 086 pipe. Is that still the recomended pipe?

gixxerman 07-05-2010 04:47 PM

Thank you Ed and Joe for your help and service, it's not often someone of your nature has the time to spend answering questions and offering support the way you guys do. You guys have GREAT support and even better service! It was cool to have you both helping me and offering suggestions at Drums this year!!! THANK YOU BOTH AGAIN!!

-Brad

rallyebmx 07-05-2010 05:49 PM

Maaaaan, Im telling you there are blue skies ahead in the JS thread!!!:sneaky: I just street tuned my brand new full mod. Not sure what exactly has changed, but it was literally the easiest engine I have ever tuned!! I only had to turn about 3-4 hours in on both needles and it is running raped ape style!! I also only have a 6.5 RB insert in it too:eek:. I had it dialed in one tank, and ran a second to confirm. Tomorrow it hits the track. Seems like any teething issues with tuning have been sorted. Cant wait to see it on the track and start recording some run times. I'll post back........

The full mod was lighting up instantly on pavement, so get some light clutch springs or get a smooth finger:D Its a power house:eek:

jpalessi 07-05-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by rallyebmx (Post 7632052)
Maaaaan, Im telling you there are blue skies ahead in the JS thread!!!:sneaky: I just street tuned my brand new full mod. Not sure what exactly has changed, but it was literally the easiest engine I have ever tuned!! I only had to turn about 3-4 hours in on both needles and it is running raped ape style!! I also only have a 6.5 RB insert in it too:eek:. I had it dialed in one tank, and ran a second to confirm. Tomorrow it hits the track. Seems like any teething issues with tuning have been sorted. Cant wait to see it on the track and start recording some run times. I'll post back........

The full mod was lighting up instantly on pavement, so get some light clutch springs or get a smooth finger:D Its a power house:eek:

nice! I'm talking with mazzara about coming out to lcrc saturday.. then sunday to wolcott for rd.1 of ness. :eek:

sider662 07-05-2010 06:25 PM

A+ Engine
 
What kind of bearing does this engine have?

I finally got to see one of the .21 JS engines at the Nats. A guy named Marc had one, and this motor hands down ripped! It sounds crisp idling and on power. Had tons of rip (Hauled A$$) and had excellent run time, especially at 6200ft ABOVE SL.

Too bad I didn't see one sooner, I need to wear out or blow my motor asap.:sneaky:

Who's got the best deal on JS?

jpalessi 07-05-2010 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by dreaux (Post 7631738)
I am really liking this motor from what i have seen. But i hear they tune very different then o.s. motors. I have 4 o.s. motors so it is all i know. Once i get a good idle i go to the hsn then the lsn that is how i tune. Alot of people i know tune o.s. motor with the lsn first. A cold natured motor is right up my ally as well:D

Now, i am figuring out which one to get. I still have a couple vspec's and ninja's so i am trying to figure out which one to put in a truggy. Should i get the stock or modd?

which one is the eisiest to tune? I want the full mod but if it's a touchy engine i will just go with the stock. I also have a 086 pipe. Is that still the recomended pipe?

dreaux,
I would p/u a race prepped, and go from there. they all tune just about the same.,, maybe the fm a lil more off the bottom. 086 is a good pipe to start with and if you don't like we can always talk about what your looking for and recommend something else.

jpalessi 07-05-2010 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by sider662 (Post 7632229)
What kind of bearing does this engine have?

I finally got to see one of the .21 JS engines at the Nats. A guy named Marc had one, and this motor hands down ripped! It sounds crisp idling and on power. Had tons of rip (Hauled A$$) and had excellent run time, especially at 6200ft ABOVE SL.

Too bad I didn't see one sooner, I need to wear out or blow my motor asap.:sneaky:

Who's got the best deal on JS?

thats was Marc Flora. he is one of our team drivers that attended the 2010 nats. he was running a stock .21 js with 40% EBMods race fuel (due to the elevation). back home he runs 30% and the JS preforms the same or better then the 40% at 6200'

sider662 07-05-2010 07:22 PM

js
 
Marc and his wife were cool, offered his help due to my frustration with my tune. I am a decent engine tuner, my motors just weren't really running.
I live in NM and race on the WC and Until then I had not ever heard of JS, I've heard of Eb mods (who hasn't).

rallyebmx 07-05-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7632147)
nice! I'm talking with mazzara about coming out to lcrc saturday.. then sunday to wolcott for rd.1 of ness. :eek:

Thats hardcore!....... but so neccessary:D The list for LCRC is getting deep http://www.rctech.net/forum/racing-f...tral-pa-5.html Plus there are additions to the track and this amazing track only runs once a month, so the ROAR race and everyone else gets the finger:D

rallyebmx 07-07-2010 04:17 PM

First time on the track with my full mod last night. My street tuned seemed spot on and the engine was flawless. Im still a bit rich and I only have a total of 4 tanks through it. I timed the 3rd tank. I got 9min 40sec till dry in buggy and thats the hardest fuel mileage track Ive been to. My race prep took about a gallon before I saw run times peak. On that engine I started on this same track getting around 8min 30sec with no fuel filter and wound up with around 10min 45sec tanks w/ fuel filter gallons later. 10 min pits are usually not done at this track. 10min 45sec just squeaks in for me to do a 10 min pit. Ahhhh yeah:tire:

jbright33 07-07-2010 05:42 PM

taken it to the limit tom lol. i can usually do 10-10:30 on my d8 but usually pit at nine sometimes 8 depends on our race time. and I have been seeing high 13's low 14's in my truggy. Im thinking about just racin truggy this weekend at lc and putting my full mod in it prob fly on that track.

rallyebmx 07-07-2010 05:59 PM

No way-race both! LCRC is more of a 'motor track' though. I just street ran 2 more tanks in my full mod. Got it a little leaner and its screaming. Ill run some more timed tanks when I get there Sat morning. Im usually the only one in buggy going for 10 min pits there. I hope I get enough run time on the full mod so it loosens up a bit and I can hit 11 min:)


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