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EBMods 06-28-2010 05:32 PM

On a happier note, the .23 Truggy engines will be here in 3-4 weeks.

JS Racing 3 Shoe Clutches and Tools are now in-stock. Stayed tuned to the web site for updates and pictures. Losi style clutches coming in with the order of .23 Truggy engines.

nitro crazy 06-28-2010 05:53 PM

Gonna keep working with my full mod some more, after all i got $300.00 plus in it including 086 pipe, it will start good on a 95 degree day as long as you use the heat gun to warm it up. Got just over a gallon on it so far maybe it needs ran more. I've seen the 4 js motors dissapear at my track all going back to o.s. motors, maybe i should order some bearings for my os motor and get it ready but i really like the speed this thing creates when shes warmed up and running..

nitro crazy 06-28-2010 05:56 PM

I really think ed does a super job with his engines, i'm not giving up yet on my js.... I know these engines have to be ok seen what arron pucci engines run like, super fast....

EBMods 06-28-2010 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by nitro crazy (Post 7602121)
Gonna keep working with my full mod some more, after all i got $300.00 plus in it including 086 pipe, it will start good on a 95 degree day as long as you use the heat gun to warm it up. Got just over a gallon on it so far maybe it needs ran more. I've seen the 4 js motors dissapear at my track all going back to o.s. motors, maybe i should order some bearings for my os motor and get it ready but i really like the speed this thing creates when shes warmed up and running..

Having a hard time starting is usally a sign of being super rich on the LSN. Sometimes the engine will run backwards when trying to start.

blktransam 06-28-2010 06:01 PM

Ed just to be clear...the clutch WAS new...the FLYWHEEL on the other hand yes was old...but like i said I ran it on my speed with zero issues not going to argue about it... again Joe and Ed are GREAT guys, the engines did not work for me that is all..as I said before if they work for u then thats great. I cant believe no one has jumped on a FULL mod that joe AND Ed ran them selves...for $125.00 shipped?!?!?....

338lapua09 06-28-2010 06:20 PM

Me being a novice to the nitro scene and starting with a sport mill and moving up to this JS.21fm
I have no complants since there is a brand new FM waiting on the shelf for my other trug
and now a .23 is here and I still cant drive lol plus it idles all day long till I flip it back over it's all good :tire::tire::tire: man I need to practice

thanks ED/Joe for advancing the hobby in hard times keep it up :D

nitro crazy 06-28-2010 06:21 PM

Thanks ed i will give that a try. I really like this engine, like i said when shes warm it will out run the speed motors at my track. I've had other eb motors and they all have been great so i know i will figure this one out... :nod:

JUD 06-28-2010 06:51 PM

Wow!! This thread has really went south with all the negativity! Anyway, my JS is perfect!:D No issues what so ever. There are so many things that factor in a flameout. From a bad fuel tank, to a loose flywheel nut!:tire: IM running the OD 97T plug. EB Mods pipe. 25% Byrons fuel.

dreaux 06-28-2010 07:04 PM

i was at the track this weekend, and they had one ripping it up. Went to look and see what is was and sure nuff is was a js:sneaky:

thinking bout getting one when i get my truggy:nod:

jpalessi 06-28-2010 07:29 PM

Some JS .23 video footage.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObiL7MW7FAo

this is from a couple weeks ago at CRC Raceway in Rome NY for the northeast rcp round 1. after a miserable day saturday qualifying in the rain, the best i could come up with is a b main blowout. lol a bearing in my front diff let loose with like 2 mins to go battling for the bump. all that rain and calcium killed my drive-train bearings. :(

engine ran great all weekend! I'm loving it!

skoalisbad4me 06-28-2010 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by dreaux (Post 7602523)
i was at the track this weekend, and they had one ripping it up. Went to look and see what is was and sure nuff is was a js:sneaky:

thinking bout getting one when i get my truggy:nod:

Dreaux I really don't think you will be disappointed. I came from running os motors (ninja jx21, vspec, speed) and this motor is awesome. I have right at a gallon on mine and I can fire it up with one pop on the box, and it will sit there and idle ALL DAY LONG. Just ran this past weekend and it kept up with the speeds all day flying down the back straight. This motor is amazing. And I am running mine with the OD 97t plug, os 2050 pipe (for now till I can get an 086) and byrons 30% nitro in an xray 808

jbright33 06-28-2010 08:47 PM

have to say the js clutches are working awesome have been running the carbon in my buggy for about 3 months and have been switching back and forth from the tornado and twister in my truggy.

hopupking 06-29-2010 01:15 PM

I am sorry buddy I would not say that a JS can run with an Speed kinda disrespectful to the speed motor. The JS might be great for a guy on a budget. This motor should be compared to mills like the Go and so on.

skoalisbad4me 06-29-2010 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7606097)
I am sorry buddy I would not say that a JS can run with an Speed kinda disrespectful to the speed motor. The JS might be great for a guy on a budget. This motor should be compared to mills like the Go and so on.

Coming from personally running a speed I believe I can compare the two. I agree to disagree with your statement and I do think it can be compared to a speed

jpalessi 06-29-2010 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7606097)
I am sorry buddy I would not say that a JS can run with an Speed kinda disrespectful to the speed motor. The JS might be great for a guy on a budget. This motor should be compared to mills like the Go and so on.

I didnt know the speed engine was something so special....maybe im missing something? ? but to me its just a glorified vspec, as is the jx which is a much better buy over the speed imo. I ran ebmods OS based engines for years, and i have more power and better runtime then I've ever got out of my OS's. to each their own i guess.

rallyebmx 06-29-2010 01:31 PM

But the OS cost so much more-they haaave to be better:D

hopupking 06-29-2010 02:39 PM

Well I had to pull out my JS because I was getting run over by other motors.
Hard to believe that Alessi, I don't want to say your wrong but just that what you posted is hard to believe.

jpalessi 06-29-2010 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7606399)
Well I had to pull out my JS because I was getting run over by other motors.
Hard to believe that Alessi, I don't want to say your wrong but just that what you posted is hard to believe.

I can only tell you what it does for me and how i do it.. beyond that i dont know what to tell you. if you want i can have some of my local guys come on and tell you how they seen me go over 11 mins on a pit?

on most tracks i get between 11:30 and 12;30 with a 150cc fuel capacity in my mbx6t. same tracks i was getting between 10 and 11 with the same fuel capacity in my 6t with OS engines, making less power.

hopupking 06-29-2010 04:12 PM

Right I am sure the JS line is far superior than OS stuff. That's why you are on here everyday telling people they don't know how to tune there motors an its user error. On the OS thread they don't even have an employee on there because there is not a laundry list of guys with problems.

jborunda 06-29-2010 04:14 PM

MBX6t set up
 
I just bought a full mod, I'm planning using it on a mbx6t, what is your
set up on the truck ?

I'm gonna use p4, nova 086 long header, sidewinder 30%, fioroni clutch, any extra recommendation?

Thanks!



Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7606551)
I can only tell you what it does for me and how i do it.. beyond that i dont know what to tell you. if you want i can have some of my local guys come on and tell you how they seen me go over 11 mins on a pit?

on most tracks i get between 11:30 and 12;30 with a 150cc fuel capacity in my mbx6t. same tracks i was getting between 10 and 11 with the same fuel capacity in my 6t with OS engines, making less power.


hopupking 06-29-2010 04:14 PM

Local guys, well your local sponsored guy in my area has finished only one main this year without flaming out.

skoalisbad4me 06-29-2010 04:29 PM

the only thing I would say is to each is one. This past weekend I had guys jaws drop when they saw my $229 box stock js motor out pulling there $500 speed motors down the back straight. And I am still very fat as I don't even have a gallon on it and I still got 9min on my tank in buggy. You run your 500 speed. Ill stick with this js and run this s#$t out of everything on the track

jpalessi 06-29-2010 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7606739)
Right I am sure the JS line is far superior than OS stuff. That's why you are on here everyday telling people they don't know how to tune there motors an its user error. On the OS thread they don't even have an employee on there because there is not a laundry list of guys with problems.

:lol::lol: you are really funny. manufactures cant win.. if you have someone on here helping im the bad guy, and when a manufacture has no one on here helping, the manufacture has no support...

I never said our engines are superior to any other brand, but i will put the JS line up against some of the best in the industry including OS. ALL I KNOW IS WHEN YOU TAKE APART 100 ENGINES AT A TIME NO MATTER THE MANUFACTURE THERE IS GOING TO BE DEFECTS AND ISSUE WITH A %. have you ever taken a 100 OS engines apart?

I remember back in pre 2006 we had nothing but bearing issues with OS engines, and they worked through it going from a 10 ball to a 9 ball. Or better yet back in the 90's when ppl laughed at OS and wouldn't touch them. My point being is that every new engine line will have issues to work through and fortunately enough we already have a good product with minimal issues to work through.

jpalessi 06-29-2010 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7606751)
Local guys, well your local sponsored guy in my area has finished only one main this year without flaming out.

I'm sorry we dont have a midget ed hopping out of the box to tune your engine for you, and if little bobby fails at tuning, then that is user error. I would like to know the ebmods team drivers name in your area?

jpalessi 06-29-2010 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by jborunda (Post 7606749)
I just bought a full mod, I'm planning using it on a mbx6t, what is your
set up on the truck ?

I'm gonna use p4, nova 086 long header, sidewinder 30%, fioroni clutch, any extra recommendation?

Thanks!

All sounds good except the long header and the fioroni clutch. get a short header and a different clutch. those clutches bog. I run a p5 plug, a 2041 pipe, 8mm stack, 30% ebmoods.

DuckStang 06-29-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7606880)
and if little bobby fails at tuning, then that is user error.


Hey, I am not little.

hopupking 06-29-2010 05:30 PM

I am not going to be mean to them and post there names especially after you are basically calling them stupid. Now I know how you think of your customers and team drivers.

jpalessi 06-29-2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by DuckStang (Post 7607014)
Hey, I am not little.

:lol:

jborunda 06-29-2010 05:32 PM

Thanks Joe, I never had any problems with the fioroni clutch, but I'm gonna try the mugen and see what happens.

I'm gonna use the long header till I can get a short one.

The engine is brand new and I know they come ready to race, but any advice for the first tanks?

I hope not to have so many problems like the guys above, and if I do have, i hope you can help me.

Thanks again




Originally Posted by jpalessi (Post 7606891)
All sounds good except the long header and the fioroni clutch. get a short header and a different clutch. those clutches bog. I run a p5 plug, a 2041 pipe, 8mm stack, 30% ebmoods.


hopupking 06-29-2010 05:36 PM

Alessi you act like you are some tuning god or Pro driver. You talk down to guys who if came to your track would smoke you.

DANE_TRAIN 06-29-2010 05:55 PM

hopupking, if you spent half the time you spend bad mouthing JS and EBMODS, and actually learned to tune your JS maybe you would realize how stupid it was of you post like a "RC hero" on rctech.

Don't you have anything better to do?

billyrc 06-29-2010 06:02 PM

+1

G_WORD 06-29-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by DANE_TRAIN (Post 7607160)
hopupking, if you spent half the time you spend bad mouthing JS and EBMODS, and actually learned to tune your JS maybe you would realize how stupid it was of you post like a "RC hero" on rctech.

Don't you have anything better to do?

+2:lol:

jpalessi 06-29-2010 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7607067)
Alessi you act like you are some tuning god or Pro driver. You talk down to guys who if came to your track would smoke you.

i'm not a tuning god nor do i consider my self a pro driver. i dont get paid to race and you dont see me on neo every week. BUT i do know how to tune nitro engines better then most and im confident enough to say i'm a good racer.

it's all in how you read it cause i just speak the truth and if you dont like it, it comes off abrasive.... but thanks i needed someone to tell me who i am today. that seems to becoming a popular trend in here and i find it assuming.

jpalessi 06-29-2010 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by jborunda (Post 7607047)
Thanks Joe, I never had any problems with the fioroni clutch, but I'm gonna try the mugen and see what happens.

I'm gonna use the long header till I can get a short one.

The engine is brand new and I know they come ready to race, but any advice for the first tanks?

I hope not to have so many problems like the guys above, and if I do have, i hope you can help me.

Thanks again

i never owned the fioroni clutch but from what i seen it didnt look good, so if you try it and it bogs chances are you need to clutch up, or try a different clutch system. to be honest im not a big fan of the mugen clutch either, and i run for mugen. I would deff get a different bell and shoes, the mugen flywheel is ok. ofna bell and m2c soft shoes is the cheapest most affective. if you want newer more expensive design like the fioroni i would get the assendancy setup w/bell from TKO competition.

tony montana 06-29-2010 06:25 PM

you guys should not be getting run over by any means. You must be doing something wrong then. These engines are fast. I only run the stock one and I think its comparable to my jx ninja

vince7870 06-29-2010 06:42 PM

Damn y'all must be doing something wrong cuz ebmods gives me wings......os go and now js. Fast and consistant! No matter what engine line he touched and gave me. Idled like a dream off the start easy to tune and never lacking against anyone out there.

But the best part about this hobby is there is always options. And there ain't anything money can't fix!

If his engines don't work for you there is many more for you to try.

Enjoy the hobby and the thrill of shiney new shit

hopupking 06-29-2010 07:44 PM

I never had a problem with mine flaming out. It just not perform like what I have grown accustomed too. For the price these are not bad motors. Next your going to be saying they last 10 gallons.

vince7870 06-29-2010 07:52 PM

lol, not me..... my radios dont last 10 gallons read my post. money ensures i have new shiney shit and lessen my chances of problems....that 10 gallon farse is one youll never hear me tell!

jpalessi 06-29-2010 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by hopupking (Post 7607794)
I never had a problem with mine flaming out. It just not perform like what I have grown accustomed too. For the price these are not bad motors. Next your going to be saying they last 10 gallons.

:lol: my last js .21 engine i got 9 and it was still running when i retired it, it was just tired, and didn't idle for long at that point. my jx's, and speed crank os's i got 8-9, blue head vspec i got around 6-7, post 2006 of course. :lol::lol::lol:


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