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sturla 06-02-2010 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Speedyrob (Post 7475178)
Part #02010-001. Should fit every Engine, Clucth. I tryed it on my losi 4 shoe and fit perfect the way they its made it well fit any motor im asuming not 100% but really cant see how. A great price too at only 16.99 give or take at you local hobby shop. I TRULY think it well make you engine bearing last longer And Your motor due too not any have mud dirt geting any were it every again. The rb Shark 9 a great motor but im really laking top end go to try a novarossi 9886 pipe with the L shape ofna header to see if i can wake it up. My temps are around 260 i know you shouldnt go by temps but all my other Rbs run around 220-250 with great power. What do you think Chris P. I feel i have a good bit of fuel thought it 2 1/2 gallon and more. Thanks for any help bro Speedyrob

Think you should check your settings, my shark isn`t laking top end at all:) Running stock setup with pipe.

Speedyrob 06-02-2010 02:07 PM

shark 9
 
Going to try and test the nov 86 .Igave the motor one more try this past weekend with stock pipe and 8mm restrictor temps hot 270 and still no topend. I was geting past on the straight like i was sitting there at my points race. I think the 2045 to long for this motor. Once again loving the RB Engine Protector im not a sponsored driver just love products that work and on ANY setup. Track was muddy this weekend can home pulled the protector off and the bearings clean as can as new Wow. speedyrob

jk1152 06-02-2010 08:04 PM

Engine Protector
 
I have a few RB's they are "grooved" by the front bearing (S5/S7/WS7 all the same case). It was 1mm smaller then my Ninja OS. Maybe most novarossi based engines have this groove feature but I'd be pretty certain this protector will not fit OS based engines.

Dklst 06-03-2010 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by Speedyrob (Post 7489521)
Going to try and test the nov 86 .Igave the motor one more try this past weekend with stock pipe and 8mm restrictor temps hot 270 and still no topend. I was geting past on the straight like i was sitting there at my points race. I think the 2045 to long for this motor. Once again loving the RB Engine Protector im not a sponsored driver just love products that work and on ANY setup. Track was muddy this weekend can home pulled the protector off and the bearings clean as can as new Wow. speedyrob

Try a short header. The 1 that comes with the 2045 seems a lil long and kills top end. I put a short L shaped mugen header(JX14002) on and top end screams and temps dropped about 20 to 30 degrees. Did the same thing on c6 and my buddy couldn't even control it it had so much more power all around.

Rick57 06-04-2010 09:43 AM

WS7 III Needle Settings
 
I have a WS7 III that I have rebuilt. The engine has been broken in using the "factory settings". I am struggling with a base line "racing tune". There seems to be a some "lag" coming out of turns. I am using a 2045/198 pipe set. 1.0 clutch spring with a stock RC8 flywheel. My gut feeling is the LSN if off. I know RB's are sensitive to LSN settings. If my memory is correct, RB's like rich LSN settings? Can some body give me a starting point for my HSN/LSN settings as well a a good base line temp? I live in Atlanta, Ga and run Byron 25%.

Chris Peralta 06-04-2010 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Rick57 (Post 7498032)
I have a WS7 III that I have rebuilt. The engine has been broken in using the "factory settings". I am struggling with a base line "racing tune". There seems to be a some "lag" coming out of turns. I am using a 2045/198 pipe set. 1.0 clutch spring with a stock RC8 flywheel. My gut feeling is the LSN if off. I know RB's are sensitive to LSN settings. If my memory is correct, RB's like rich LSN settings? Can some body give me a starting point for my HSN/LSN settings as well a a good base line temp? I live in Atlanta, Ga and run Byron 25%.

You don't want to tune these engines with a rich LSN, that will cause you flame outs after getting refueled. My WS7's LSN is normally between 4.5 and 4.75 turns out. That is generally close to flush or out from flush a little. The WS7 is more of a top end engine, I run a Losi buggy that comes stock with 13 48 gearing and I always changed out to 13 50 to get the bottom end I wanted, the engine still has plenty up top for long straights as well. Tune the engine so the bottom is nice and crisp and responsive. If after being on the track for 5 minutes or so you notice the low end power really falls off you can fatten up the bottom some.

Rick57 06-04-2010 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Peralta (Post 7498070)
You don't want to tune these engines with a rich LSN, that will cause you flame outs after getting refueled. My WS7's LSN is normally between 4.5 and 4.75 turns out. That is generally close to flush or out from flush a little. The WS7 is more of a top end engine, I run a Losi buggy that comes stock with 13 48 gearing and I always changed out to 13 50 to get the bottom end I wanted, the engine still has plenty up top for long straights as well. Tune the engine so the bottom is nice and crisp and responsive. If after being on the track for 5 minutes or so you notice the low end power really falls off you can fatten up the bottom some.

Been there done that on the flame outs after fueling!!! So it appears that you run yours not far from the "factory" settings; HSN 3.5 LSN 5? There is the option to go with a larger spur gear on the RC8 buggy. Maybe I should try that as well? Never had a problem with top end! That is why I LOVE this engine! Thanks for you help!! I have added a turbo head button as well and run an O'Donnell T97 plug. I have played with the T77 as well.

Chris Peralta 06-04-2010 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by Rick57 (Post 7498100)
Been there done that on the flame outs after fueling!!! So it appears that you run yours not far from the "factory" settings; HSN 3.5 LSN 5? There is the option to go with a larger spur gear on the RC8 buggy. Maybe I should try that as well? Never had a problem with top end! That is why I LOVE this engine! Thanks for you help!! I have added a turbo head button as well and run an O'Donnell T97 plug. I have played with the T77 as well.

Yeah my LSN is generally pretty close to the stock settings of 5, the HSN is usually around 3 turns out once tuned. I would try a larger spur gear for sure!! For me the WS7 was never a great performing engine until I geared the car to fit the engines power band. After the gearing change I had all the bottom end power I could ask for with slightly less top end. I only notice the loss in top end on tracks that have a straight longer than 180 feet.

BSC 06-09-2010 04:09 AM

Have a Killer10 on the way .
Will be running OD97T plug
Other than the 2045 pipe with 192 header , what other pipes have people tried with great results ?
What run times are people getting out of this motor?
Any tuning advice for this motor
and what type of life should i expect ?
Should i change the rod early on or run it till it lets go ?
Are the bearings holding up alright ?
I think that is enough questions , i've got them all covered in 1 post :lol:

TIX 06-11-2010 05:05 AM

is anyone running their C6USA in an 8T 2.0?
are you running stock gearing and what size venturi are you running?

im down to a 6.5 and i am thinking of going up a clutchbell size to smooth out the power a little bit

Chris Peralta 06-11-2010 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by TIX (Post 7528013)
is anyone running their C6USA in an 8T 2.0?
are you running stock gearing and what size venturi are you running?

im down to a 6.5 and i am thinking of going up a clutchbell size to smooth out the power a little bit

I run mine in a 2.0 truggy. I race at 6,000 feet elevation so with all the horsepower that I lose from that I run the stock gearing. If your going to change the gearing I suggest you go from a 50 tooth spur to the 48 tooth spur, 2 teeth on your spur gear is less dramatic than 1 tooth on the clutch bell. I myself run a 7.5 venturi in my USA. but have tried many sizes, I always seem to like 7-7.5 the most and still easily pit 10 minutes.

BSC 06-11-2010 08:51 AM

Do you know much about the cross 10 Chris ?
I'm interested in one but can't find anything on them.

diamondracing 06-11-2010 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by BSC (Post 7528708)
Do you know much about the cross 10 Chris ?
I'm interested in one but can't find anything on them.

Cross 10 is the same as the Shark 9. Very smooth bottom and top is good w/2045 192 pipe/header. I have owned a handful and have been extremely happy. The power is very close to a C6-B9-B10. If you want one let me know :)

TIX 06-11-2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Peralta (Post 7528040)
I run mine in a 2.0 truggy. I race at 6,000 feet elevation so with all the horsepower that I lose from that I run the stock gearing. If your going to change the gearing I suggest you go from a 50 tooth spur to the 48 tooth spur, 2 teeth on your spur gear is less dramatic than 1 tooth on the clutch bell. I myself run a 7.5 venturi in my USA. but have tried many sizes, I always seem to like 7-7.5 the most and still easily pit 10 minutes.

thats what i was thinking
i already have too much pace at the end of the straight with this thing so a 14 is only going to make it worse
im only running at about 375 feet and the temps are around the 57 degrees Fahrenheit so im not loosing any horsepower
i got down to a 6 last weekend and hadnt changed the tune from the 6.5. so it ran a little rich and still got 10.30. if i tune it up with a 6 i think it'll be perfect

xxxntwv 06-11-2010 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by BSC (Post 7518529)
Have a Killer10 on the way .
Will be running OD97T plug
Other than the 2045 pipe with 192 header , what other pipes have people tried with great results ?
What run times are people getting out of this motor?
Any tuning advice for this motor
and what type of life should i expect ?
Should i change the rod early on or run it till it lets go ?
Are the bearings holding up alright ?
I think that is enough questions , i've got them all covered in 1 post :lol:

I ran one with an re10 pipe and was getting around 9-30 to 10 minute in buggy.The bearings and rod hold up very well and the pinch last a long time.Myself I didn't like the 2045 it killed the power and temps went up 30 deg and got less runtime.


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