RB Concept Engine Thread..
#1201
Tech Adept
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 115
I've got about 7.5 gallons on my K9 and this has been a geat engine. I'm running it with a RB 2045/192 combo. I'm getting right at 10 min tanks in my RC8T. this engine hasn't had one leak the entire time. It been really competitive as far as I'm concerned. The only thing I did is add one thin shim.
The K9 has more bottom than the ws7 and c5/c6 motors. that being said, it's not the same quality. my k9 needs a new oring in the hsn and the crank is worn where the clutch bearings ride. It's only a 10 min motor if you are easy with the trigger where I could do 10 with my c6bbt regardless.
I'm looking at a new motor and all of RB's new lineup looks good lol. I drove a HB D8T with a classico 9 and it had crazy power...go figure an on road motor with a different head. I think in order to run the Pro Series the K9 can do it, but I'm tempted to try something like the Rally 10 or Classico 10. I just don't want to lose that strong bottom end.
any thoughts?
The K9 has more bottom than the ws7 and c5/c6 motors. that being said, it's not the same quality. my k9 needs a new oring in the hsn and the crank is worn where the clutch bearings ride. It's only a 10 min motor if you are easy with the trigger where I could do 10 with my c6bbt regardless.
I'm looking at a new motor and all of RB's new lineup looks good lol. I drove a HB D8T with a classico 9 and it had crazy power...go figure an on road motor with a different head. I think in order to run the Pro Series the K9 can do it, but I'm tempted to try something like the Rally 10 or Classico 10. I just don't want to lose that strong bottom end.
any thoughts?
#1202
More than any of the above factors the tune on the engine will be the greatest. Your LSN should be very close to flush on a good race tune, the HSN can range from just out from flush to just in from flush depending on weather, fuel, and elevation. I have seen a lot of people in buggy set the engine a little rich because it is easier to drive, this can work to a point but in a race situation your fuel economy is going to suffer from it.
#1203
#1204
I've got about 7.5 gallons on my K9 and this has been a geat engine. I'm running it with a RB 2045/192 combo. I'm getting right at 10 min tanks in my RC8T. this engine hasn't had one leak the entire time. It been really competitive as far as I'm concerned. The only thing I did is add one thin shim.
The K9 has more bottom than the ws7 and c5/c6 motors. that being said, it's not the same quality. my k9 needs a new oring in the hsn and the crank is worn where the clutch bearings ride. It's only a 10 min motor if you are easy with the trigger where I could do 10 with my c6bbt regardless.
I'm looking at a new motor and all of RB's new lineup looks good lol. I drove a HB D8T with a classico 9 and it had crazy power...go figure an on road motor with a different head. I think in order to run the Pro Series the K9 can do it, but I'm tempted to try something like the Rally 10 or Classico 10. I just don't want to lose that strong bottom end.
any thoughts?
The K9 has more bottom than the ws7 and c5/c6 motors. that being said, it's not the same quality. my k9 needs a new oring in the hsn and the crank is worn where the clutch bearings ride. It's only a 10 min motor if you are easy with the trigger where I could do 10 with my c6bbt regardless.
I'm looking at a new motor and all of RB's new lineup looks good lol. I drove a HB D8T with a classico 9 and it had crazy power...go figure an on road motor with a different head. I think in order to run the Pro Series the K9 can do it, but I'm tempted to try something like the Rally 10 or Classico 10. I just don't want to lose that strong bottom end.
any thoughts?
Funny that you say the D8T was fast with the on-road motor. The C6USA actually uses an on-road crankshaft with the standard C6 piston and sleeve and it is a beast in a truggy. The on-road motors are designed for all out power for a car with a TON of traction so it can be a pretty violent power band in an off-road car.
The K9/10 engines have a pretty aggressive timing on the crankshaft somewhat similar to what an on-road engine would use, the B10 is not as aggressive but like you said it also gets better fuel mileage. If you really do like the K9 a lot I would say get yourself a new K10 and stick with what you like.
#1206
The easiest way to tell is look for numbers on the header it's self. It is most likely a 192 header as the combos all come with 192 headers and the 2045 pipe combo comes with 192. Unless they purchased the header and pipe separate you should have a 192.
#1207
Tech Adept
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 115
Funny that you say the D8T was fast with the on-road motor. The C6USA actually uses an on-road crankshaft with the standard C6 piston and sleeve and it is a beast in a truggy. The on-road motors are designed for all out power for a car with a TON of traction so it can be a pretty violent power band in an off-road car.
The K9/10 engines have a pretty aggressive timing on the crankshaft somewhat similar to what an on-road engine would use, the B10 is not as aggressive but like you said it also gets better fuel mileage. If you really do like the K9 a lot I would say get yourself a new K10 and stick with what you like.
The K9/10 engines have a pretty aggressive timing on the crankshaft somewhat similar to what an on-road engine would use, the B10 is not as aggressive but like you said it also gets better fuel mileage. If you really do like the K9 a lot I would say get yourself a new K10 and stick with what you like.
Good info Chris, I was confused with all the new models. now to decide b/w the two or both.
#1208
Ok guys, The K9 is an excellent engine teamed up with the 2045 pipe and 192 header......ran it for the first time today in a race situation and had no tuning issues at all and had really decent power considering that it only had about 8 tanks through it before I started the day...so it is still in the running it slightly rich stgae....next weekend I will get to lean it out a little more and realy start to see the power come in
#1210
Funny that you say the D8T was fast with the on-road motor. The C6USA actually uses an on-road crankshaft with the standard C6 piston and sleeve and it is a beast in a truggy. The on-road motors are designed for all out power for a car with a TON of traction so it can be a pretty violent power band in an off-road car.
The K9/10 engines have a pretty aggressive timing on the crankshaft somewhat similar to what an on-road engine would use, the B10 is not as aggressive but like you said it also gets better fuel mileage. If you really do like the K9 a lot I would say get yourself a new K10 and stick with what you like.
The K9/10 engines have a pretty aggressive timing on the crankshaft somewhat similar to what an on-road engine would use, the B10 is not as aggressive but like you said it also gets better fuel mileage. If you really do like the K9 a lot I would say get yourself a new K10 and stick with what you like.
i lost my manual and i want to rebuild it
#1211
1164-14B/R or 1164-14/R It's the same crankshaft they just added the B for the parts listing for the buggy engine. This may be very very hard to find because these were Rody modified cranks and he has not been there for quite some time.
#1212
Tech Master
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,418
From: Amishland PA
#1213
im looking to get the rb hobby 9 5 port engine , which i know replaced the s5
im gone to use it. on my truggy whould the, jp3 pipe work good on this engine?
i dont have enough for a rb pipe, also is a 5 port more of a top end engine and less bottom or both? if the jp3 doesnt, work good than would the jp1 or jp2 work better?
and also i race on a techinal big outdoor track.
im gone to use it. on my truggy whould the, jp3 pipe work good on this engine?
i dont have enough for a rb pipe, also is a 5 port more of a top end engine and less bottom or both? if the jp3 doesnt, work good than would the jp1 or jp2 work better?
and also i race on a techinal big outdoor track.
#1214
im looking to get the rb hobby 9 5 port engine , which i know replaced the s5
im gone to use it. on my truggy whould the, jp3 pipe work good on this engine?
i dont have enough for a rb pipe, also is a 5 port more of a top end engine and less bottom or both? if the jp3 doesnt, work good than would the jp1 or jp2 work better?
and also i race on a techinal big outdoor track.
im gone to use it. on my truggy whould the, jp3 pipe work good on this engine?
i dont have enough for a rb pipe, also is a 5 port more of a top end engine and less bottom or both? if the jp3 doesnt, work good than would the jp1 or jp2 work better?
and also i race on a techinal big outdoor track.



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