Interesting... I was wanting to go down there, but it would be 3 1/2 hours and then some one-way on the train.. And probably another 1/2 hour at least in trams or buses, etc.. Bit too much for one day I think...

So is this new "Xtrem" Line just another, separate "anniversary" line in addition to their other stuff, or does it completely replace it, so RB now only has two offroad race engines, ala OS?....

Those are two totally new engines. I am sure some of the older engines will still be available as well as thats how they get rid of older inventory. These new engines are running the 14.5mm crank like the Nova Bonito and last years RB onroad engines. No idea about the bore and stroke of them tho..... time will tell.

So what's the difference between the rally 11 and fire 11 ?? Does it share the same piston and sleeve ?

They do, only difference is they come with different cooling heads.

BXR and BX
 

Savoia talks about new engines,

"Hi guys!
No fuel mileage problem with the new BX or BXR! After many R&D sessions we realized that more power doesn't necessary mean less fuel economy. However, a wheezy engine will be pushed to his limits, run hot and drink a lot! So, the p...iston sleeve of the BX and BXR engines was designed on a C6 based with CNC machined piston in order to reach high RPM. The new crankshaft is also new with a 14,5mm diameter and a turbo backplate. The perfect match between sleeve, crank and the new Pro Lock pipe brings incredible power and unmatched sound!

The 2 versions are very similar. The BXR is the top of the range with rear ceramic bearing and improved balanced crankshaft plus paste on admission. The BX shares the same basis with the same sleeve and same measurements. The power band difference is really tiny compared to the price one, so it can match highest racer expectations!!!"

Any expectations about this engines??

release date?

probably earlier march. That was when there 2011 line was available last year.

Picco P5TC plug for the F11?

Still searching.. Maybe found some Picco plugs cheap, which are good for my Nosram too..

I have no idea, I have never seen a Picco or a Picco plug. You can try it, you will know pretty quick if it's not hot enough.

Chris, my son picked up a Cross 10, what pipe works good on that down here? 2045/192

The 2045 does work good on that engine!! I used to always run the 198 header on it but that was up here. Down there it probably has plenty of bottom end with the 92. Is he gona run it in buggy or truggy?

He isn't sure yet on what he will use that engine on. Do you have a preference that would be best for that engine? He got it on ebay, and really didn't expect to win it.

I would only run that engine in a buggy myself. It's got less power than a C6 so you may have to run it really hot to get the power you would want in a truck.

Okay, thanks Chris

Hey guys just wanted to let yall know I have some clean Rb pipes for sale. 2087 w/98 mm header and a 3001 w/92mm header. Thanks.

What is the difference between the 2087 and 2092 pipe? Planning on running it in a Clockworks Fire 11.

2092? You sure you didn't mean a 2045? Compared to the 2087

A Main sells the Fire 11 or Rally (same engine) with the 2087 or the 2092.

The 2092 is an onroad pipe. I tried running the 2092 once on the Rally in my buggy and to me the engine was just too much power with that pipe. It was like an on/off switch... But it was VERY fast!! Fuel mileage was not very good either.

whats up guys one quick question hows the buggy 11 motor i was thinking of picking one up this year. is it anything like the C6 motor thanks.

The B11 is pretty much the C6.

It is very close to a C6 but it has been tamed down. The timing on the crank is less aggressive and there is a smaller exhaust port on the sleeve. Might be worth waiting for the BX or the BXR coming out soon unless your getting a sweet deal on the B11.

when do u think the BX BXR motor will come out and maybe a sweet deal on the B11.

At this time my best guess wouldbe like years in the past and the engines will be here in the US sometime in March.

thanks i will wait, they sold out.

Hey Chris, I will be at the Nitro Challenge this week, Billy Fischer is a newly RB sponsored driver, I see what he has to say on the new release date. I know he will be running the new engines in this race I'll get some pics to post.

Giddy up......... we will have our new BXR's next week. Was talking to Reno and he reckons they have more top end than the B11's.

Also the new pipe (2097) gives a heap more torque as well.

Cheers

Mark

Couple of questions:
 

Sorry if these have been answered (probably have) in the 170+ pages but i have a couple of semi-noob questions.

I acquired a used RB WS7II in pretty good shape, Still has good pinch and only one minor dig in the cooling head. I thought this engine used turbo plugs but mine is standard. I currently only have one pipe and I am not sure what pipe it is, Definitely an OFNA JP2 or JP3 but I don't know how to tell the difference in the two. Engine runs good, seems a bit finicky to tune on the low end though. I believe the plug that's in it is an Odonnell 002 medium and it seems to load up if I let it idle for a minute, If I run it any leaner then it sputters out.

Q1: What would be a good plug to use for this engine? Not worried about performance as much as I am reliability and ease of tuning. I amin Michigan so medium temps.

Q2: Would a more low-midrange pipe work better for this engine instead of the JP?

Thanks in advance, New to nitro so am still a bit :confused:

Also forgot to mention that at the moment I am running 20%, Not sure if that is a high enough nitro content to keep this engine happy or not.

I belive that RB just released a new way to connect the pipe to the header that does not require springs.

Does anyone have any information on this?

Specifically will this be available in the motor combo packs? And when?

RB #6 standard plug RB 2045/192 pipe/header combo.

I was able to see the BX-R run this week at my local track. That thng has a lot of bottom and runs nice at top speed. Savoya was practicing with it and that X-Ray was hooked up. He did have issues at first with flaming out, but once he got it tuned it ran good. I really can't wait for Nitro Challenge to see it run full out!!!

The two new pipes RB is releasing connect like you say without the small springs. They twist together and lock into place using an o-ring along with the traditional exhaust gasket. The new combo packs will come with these new header and pipes.

What's the BX-R meant to be comparable to? Local guy just got one...

Aaaaannnnnddd..................... here we go - a new version of the Fire 11 - the "Fire Limited Edition":

http://liverc.com/news/new_products/...dition_engine/

http://www.rbproducts.com/mainEn.php...roduit=01012-F

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...XSS/RBFire.jpg

I hope it costs €800... :p

The BXR is unlike any offroad engine RB has ever released. RB's offroad engines have never come standard with ceramic bearings or putty in the crank. The Shark9 and C6USA are the only offroad engines to come with Tungsten weights in the crank, and this BXR has all 3. From what I have been told the engine is back to a C6 in many ways, but with all these upgrades. I would say the C6USA would be the closest to what this engine is.

I.e., a ripper then...

That's great news Chris. Got the old C6 USA in the truggy now. Great engine. Just ordered a F11 from Neal and I'm looking forward to the new releases.

I too am excited about it and hope to get mine soon. The C6USA was always my favorite engine and I still run one in my truggy as well Ham. If you get a BXR are ya gona have Neal make it extra fast for ya? I'd be curious to see the gains in it and how it compares to the C6USA he did for ya.

Just for shooting-the-shxx's-sake, how should the BXR compare to the new Fire engine? And also, how much better should the new Fire be from the old?

BTW, jeeze the BXR ain't cheap.. I see it is up for sale at a few places here in Germany. €400-ish for the combo...... (€230 for the FII combo..)

So the thing about the Fire is it will still be as it has always been. Using up older parts to clear out older stock. This is why the F11 was available for such a great price. RB gets a deal on the older stock from Nova so they use up these older parts to build the limited edition engines. This is why you see the older style carb on there and also why you may have seen last year that the F11 to start the year may have been different than the F11 at the end of the year.

When it comes down to it the F11/Fire is an older style onroad engine, it's very aggressive and very fast. Sure it's fast in an offroad car but the powerband of the BXR will be more offroad friendly. As for which is more powerful, I can't say as I don't have my BXR yet. If the BXR puts out power like the C6USA then the BXR will be more powerful than the Fire. The biggest thing is the BXR comes with all of the latest and greatest updates that have been improved over the years.