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Old 01-22-2011 | 03:01 PM
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You will like the ceramics. Motors spin over so much easier when cold or hot.
Instant throttle response too.
We use the Answer ceramics here, and find them excellent.
The only problem I have heard of with running a ceramic front bearing (any brand), is that the shock loading from the starter box is pretty hard on them, and may cause bearing wear and failure sooner than their steel counterparts.
I haven't had any problems as yet. The cost of a front ceramic is negligible anyway, and I think the performance benefits far outway the cost of changing the front bearing a little more often.
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Old 01-22-2011 | 03:07 PM
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Oops - double post. Computer had a hiccup somewhere

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Old 01-22-2011 | 04:15 PM
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I cant live without my ceramics. I used to have mine put in by a modder but I finally broke down and just bought a bearing puller. Now life is just peachy keen.
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Old 01-22-2011 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by matrixmike28
I cant live without my ceramics. I used to have mine put in by a modder but I finally broke down and just bought a bearing puller. Now life is just peachy keen.
Oh yeah - I wouldn't be without my Hudy bearing tool. Can change a set of bearings at the track in 10 min from the time the motor comes out of the buggy till it starts going back in. Love that capabilitiy
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Old 01-22-2011 | 06:27 PM
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I need one. Linky?
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Old 01-22-2011 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruune
I need one. Linky?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...w-14mm-Bearing
just don't buy mine!!
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Old 01-22-2011 | 07:31 PM
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i heard the baking procedure was better cause it actually expands the case over the bearing and reduces slop from friction in and out. worth a shot though. seems the bad bearing "buzz" always pops up at the track on a big race day.
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Old 01-22-2011 | 07:43 PM
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Unless it is an emergency track side, I do heat my case up before removing and installing bearings even with the bearing tool. It just seems less invasive.

FYI I got the Ofna bearing tool on Ebay for half the price of the Hudy kit.
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Old 01-22-2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by matrixmike28
Unless it is an emergency track side, I do heat my case up before removing and installing bearings even with the bearing tool. It just seems less invasive.

FYI I got the Ofna bearing tool on Ebay for half the price of the Hudy kit.
I had the OFNA kit before I got the Hudy tool - Please don't take this the wrong way, but IMO the Hudy tool is a better option - that's why I upgraded.

Check out the Hudy tool at http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/p...db052bc81f8682

I found the OFNA tool very handy, and the sliding hammer worked fine, but only if you seriously heated the case.
With the Hudy unit I still heat the case slightly when I can (ie in the workshop), but if you need to do a track side bearing change the Hudy tool is far superior. It pulls the bearings with no effort what so ever - hot or cold. The expanding finger that pulls the main bearing out is a better design. It goes through the bearing further, and locks the inner cage much more securely than the OFNA one. The pitch of the threads on the removal sections makes for a slow smooth extraction, hot or cold.
It also allows you to fit both main and front bearings together at the same time, as well as coming with a collet adaptor for doing RB style 13mm crank motors (a 12mm extractor and installation guide are optional extras, for 1/10 on-road motors).
Both are good tools. If you are only doing a few bearings a year for yourself and a couple of mates, the OFNA kit is cool. If like me you are changing quite a few sets of bearings, the Hudy engineering, and the versatility and speed of use of the Hudy tool make it a better option.
None of the Hudy stuff is cheap (like their drive pin tool etc), but they do make excellent, strong, long lasting precision tools that do make the job easier, which is why I reckon their stuff is worth the extra $$

Trey - in your position, where you are probably doing lots of bearing changes and engine re-conditions like me, the Hudy tool is a no brainer. It's just so much quicker and easier.

NB: The Hudy tool is very similar to the GRP bearing tool that was around a while ago, until they burnt the factory down and destroyed everything . I think they are on the market again now, but are way more expensive than the Hudy unit (but also include a sleeve puller etc).

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Old 01-22-2011 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by matrixmike28
Unless it is an emergency track side, I do heat my case up before removing and installing bearings even with the bearing tool. It just seems less invasive.

FYI I got the Ofna bearing tool on Ebay for half the price of the Hudy kit.
toaster oven works, if you have the room to take one with you.
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Old 01-23-2011 | 12:48 AM
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+1 on the Hudy tool.
Works flawless, easy to use and very high quality. Also cheaper then most alternatives of the same quality
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Old 01-23-2011 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by grizz1
I had the OFNA kit before I got the Hudy tool - Please don't take this the wrong way, but IMO the Hudy tool is a better option - that's why I upgraded.

Check out the Hudy tool at http://www.hudy.net/xhudy/products/p...db052bc81f8682

I found the OFNA tool very handy, and the sliding hammer worked fine, but only if you seriously heated the case.
With the Hudy unit I still heat the case slightly when I can (ie in the workshop), but if you need to do a track side bearing change the Hudy tool is far superior. It pulls the bearings with no effort what so ever - hot or cold. The expanding finger that pulls the main bearing out is a better design. It goes through the bearing further, and locks the inner cage much more securely than the OFNA one. The pitch of the threads on the removal sections makes for a slow smooth extraction, hot or cold.
It also allows you to fit both main and front bearings together at the same time, as well as coming with a collet adaptor for doing RB style 13mm crank motors (a 12mm extractor and installation guide are optional extras, for 1/10 on-road motors).
Both are good tools. If you are only doing a few bearings a year for yourself and a couple of mates, the OFNA kit is cool. If like me you are changing quite a few sets of bearings, the Hudy engineering, and the versatility and speed of use of the Hudy tool make it a better option.
None of the Hudy stuff is cheap (like their drive pin tool etc), but they do make excellent, strong, long lasting precision tools that do make the job easier, which is why I reckon their stuff is worth the extra $$

Trey - in your position, where you are probably doing lots of bearing changes and engine re-conditions like me, the Hudy tool is a no brainer. It's just so much quicker and easier.

NB: The Hudy tool is very similar to the GRP bearing tool that was around a while ago, until they burnt the factory down and destroyed everything . I think they are on the market again now, but are way more expensive than the Hudy unit (but also include a sleeve puller etc).
yes... and I'm tossing around the idea of "preloading" new cases with ceramics, and selling the cases ready to drop everything else in.
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Old 01-23-2011 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruune
yes... and I'm tossing around the idea of "preloading" new cases with ceramics, and selling the cases ready to drop everything else in.
bad idea.imo. tell go factory to copy the hudy tool in orange and sell that.
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Old 01-23-2011 | 07:35 AM
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Several engine manufacturers have started offering "CE" or ceramic rear bearings pre-installed in new engines. I'd love to see the GXII come "standard" with a ceramic rear bearing.
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Old 01-23-2011 | 07:44 AM
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I myself like to change them out when needed. The go engines are so tight to begin with that I feel the break in would only wear the ceramics out to soon making it a waste of money. The other point is the go bearings last a long time.
Moto,have you used the comp. engine heater in the 12v style? and could a person hook it up to a lipo battery that would also serve as a starter box battery?
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