Team Magic G4
#8491
Well everyone, as much as I loved my G4S, I can not see myself being a supporter of a company that doesn't seem to give a rats ass about me...their customer. Since they obviously can't get their shit together after numerous trys and pulling the plug on the distributors in one way or another from people that spend lots of personal time and money to support their product, that shows me lack of commitment and lack of respect. So TM, you can probably count me out as a supporter for any more of your future products. It's a shame. TM, you need to understand that word of mouth is probably the #1 selling tool you can profit from. Your loosing a LOT of those mouths. Can't you already notice the lack of enthusiasm just on this thread. I think you might have sealed that coffin of yours. At least for any US endevors. Until I see some respect and true loyalty, forget it. I trully hope you get your act together, although it might be too late to convince anyone at this point. Best of luck nonetheless.
#8493
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
now only having the G4+ for a short time, can some one (Nick ? or Sean ?)
please note the differences from the G4+ to the G4RS please. i know the chassis is different, but the notes say, new 2 speed, new short rear end. does this just implement the adjustability of the new Flying wing arms from the G4+ ? and the new duro 2 speed ? thankyou.
please note the differences from the G4+ to the G4RS please. i know the chassis is different, but the notes say, new 2 speed, new short rear end. does this just implement the adjustability of the new Flying wing arms from the G4+ ? and the new duro 2 speed ? thankyou.
#8494
Team Magic G4RS
Team Magic G4RS Features:
- Lightweight Narrow 3mm 7075 Chassis (Width 74mm)
- All New Short Rear End Design
- Flying Wing Suspension Arms
- Front & Rear Quick Change Bulkhead
- New High Speed Gear Ratio
- New 2 Speed System
- Adjustable Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bar
- Front & Rear Gear Differential
- New Shock Absorber
- Lightweight Shock Mount & Carbon Fiber Shock Tower
- Carbon Fiber X Plate
- Quick Release Carbon Fiber Radio Plate
- Lightweight Engine Mount
- K Factory Front Universal Joint
- K Factory UFO2 Clutch System
- K Factory ST Steel Hinge Pin
#8496
Tech Fanatic
RC_Alan
#8497
Tech Fanatic
RC_Alan
#8498
Dude that doesn't make sence to me?? If everything is going so well in terms of long term relations in other countries, why do they do it different in the US? Are we the giuni pig for them or something. It sucks because I trully liked to drive the G4S over any other sedan. I personally got about 5 guys into this car, now I feel like an ass because these racers trusted MY word. TM is making me a lyer. And I DON'T LYE!! I am 100% loyal to those that are loyal back. PATTO knows me well enough to know that and he for example is someone I will be Loyal to as friends forever. Relationship can not be formed without loyalty. Heck, maybe it's just me. Anyway, if Patto wanted me to keep racing the G4whatever, I would for him and me and look above this nonsence. But it would be nice to know TM was there supporting their drivers in the US, since it sounds like everywhere else doesn't have these issues. Not that it matters that much for me now since I plan on just sticking to my Motonica! The G4RS looks sweet too. I will TRY and keep an open mind here and see what TM's next move is. They need to try and stop reinventing the wheel when it comes to sales and distribution. It's not rocket science. So TM...what is next for the US?????? I sure hope buy directly from you isn't your answer.
#8499
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
Pattojnr, the G4RS is more of an update to the G4S not the G4+. There are however some unique parts found on the RS which could be used to update the +
The following parts are already on the G4+
Flying Wing Suspension Arms
Front & Rear Quick Change Bulkhead
New High Speed Gear Ratio (ED with plastic pulleys)
New 2 Speed System (Duro)
Adjustable Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bar
New Shock Absorber (LX with different caps)
Lightweight Shock Mount & Carbon Fiber Shock Tower
K Factory Front Universal Joint
K Factory UFO2 Clutch System
K Factory ST Steel Hinge Pin
The unique items to the G4RS are:
Lightweight Narrow 3mm 7075 Chassis (Width 74mm) - Its shorter but doesnt alter the wheelbase of the G4
All New Short Rear End Design - Replacement bumper to go with the chassis
Front Gear Diff
Carbon Fiber X Plate - Tank doesnt attach to this anymore
Quick Release Carbon Fiber Radio Plate - Tank attaches to radio-tray
The only thing I'm not sure about is the Lightweight Engine Mount. Might be different, not sure.
Andrew
The following parts are already on the G4+
Flying Wing Suspension Arms
Front & Rear Quick Change Bulkhead
New High Speed Gear Ratio (ED with plastic pulleys)
New 2 Speed System (Duro)
Adjustable Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bar
New Shock Absorber (LX with different caps)
Lightweight Shock Mount & Carbon Fiber Shock Tower
K Factory Front Universal Joint
K Factory UFO2 Clutch System
K Factory ST Steel Hinge Pin
The unique items to the G4RS are:
Lightweight Narrow 3mm 7075 Chassis (Width 74mm) - Its shorter but doesnt alter the wheelbase of the G4
All New Short Rear End Design - Replacement bumper to go with the chassis
Front Gear Diff
Carbon Fiber X Plate - Tank doesnt attach to this anymore
Quick Release Carbon Fiber Radio Plate - Tank attaches to radio-tray
The only thing I'm not sure about is the Lightweight Engine Mount. Might be different, not sure.
Andrew
#8500
Yes this has been after a long relationship with Tm but they (TM) have finally upset UK (the distributor) once too often.
I also heard Spain and Italy are also having problems in their business relations with TM !! Like I said, good products, poor management.
By the way though.............. Sam at TMA here in the U.S. through in the towel with TM, not the other way round.
TM. It's no good bringing out new products if you can not market and distribute the product to the end customer. You need to trust in the distrbutor and be loyal to your end customer and not to the dollar you want from us !!
Is any of this sinking in ???
British Menace
#8501
Dude that doesn't make sence to me?? If everything is going so well in terms of long term relations in other countries, why do they do it different in the US? Are we the giuni pig for them or something. It sucks because I trully liked to drive the G4S over any other sedan. I personally got about 5 guys into this car, now I feel like an ass because these racers trusted MY word. TM is making me a lyer. And I DON'T LYE!! I am 100% loyal to those that are loyal back. PATTO knows me well enough to know that and he for example is someone I will be Loyal to as friends forever. Relationship can not be formed without loyalty. Heck, maybe it's just me. Anyway, if Patto wanted me to keep racing the G4whatever, I would for him and me and look above this nonsence. But it would be nice to know TM was there supporting their drivers in the US, since it sounds like everywhere else doesn't have these issues. Not that it matters that much for me now since I plan on just sticking to my Motonica! The G4RS looks sweet too. I will TRY and keep an open mind here and see what TM's next move is. They need to try and stop reinventing the wheel when it comes to sales and distribution. It's not rocket science. So TM...what is next for the US?????? I sure hope buy directly from you isn't your answer.
Just please reserch the distributors / marketers your thinking of using. Don't just pick someone and expect them to do as they are told !!
You also need to ensure you do not pick distributors ran by people with old fasioned and poor marketing strategies which worked 20 years ago but are now outdated. The HARD sell just doesn't work these days.
C.O.S .......... Customer Oriented Selling. This is what is needed. Giving the end customer what they want, how they want it, in the quantities they need it in.All this is then given to them WHEN they want it.......... that means LHS having the products to sell and support in the stores!
The profits will come from their (end customer) satisfaction and loyalty to the product and hence the manufacturer, through the dealer and distributor.
It really is not, as serpentd put it, rocket science is it?
British Menace
Good marketing then comes in to let the end customer know all this is available to them
#8502
Why is it that TM have not addressed some on the concerns raised he and posted a reply???
Helloooooooo.....anyone listening from TM that would like to reply?
Nick...Sean.........anyone!
Helloooooooo.....anyone listening from TM that would like to reply?
Nick...Sean.........anyone!
#8503
Tech Elite
iTrader: (19)
Pattojnr, the G4RS is more of an update to the G4S not the G4+. There are however some unique parts found on the RS which could be used to update the +
The following parts are already on the G4+
Flying Wing Suspension Arms
Front & Rear Quick Change Bulkhead
New High Speed Gear Ratio (ED with plastic pulleys)
New 2 Speed System (Duro)
Adjustable Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bar
New Shock Absorber (LX with different caps)
Lightweight Shock Mount & Carbon Fiber Shock Tower
K Factory Front Universal Joint
K Factory UFO2 Clutch System
K Factory ST Steel Hinge Pin
The unique items to the G4RS are:
Lightweight Narrow 3mm 7075 Chassis (Width 74mm) - Its shorter but doesnt alter the wheelbase of the G4
All New Short Rear End Design - Replacement bumper to go with the chassis
Front Gear Diff
Carbon Fiber X Plate - Tank doesnt attach to this anymore
Quick Release Carbon Fiber Radio Plate - Tank attaches to radio-tray
The only thing I'm not sure about is the Lightweight Engine Mount. Might be different, not sure.
Andrew
The following parts are already on the G4+
Flying Wing Suspension Arms
Front & Rear Quick Change Bulkhead
New High Speed Gear Ratio (ED with plastic pulleys)
New 2 Speed System (Duro)
Adjustable Front & Rear Anti-Roll Bar
New Shock Absorber (LX with different caps)
Lightweight Shock Mount & Carbon Fiber Shock Tower
K Factory Front Universal Joint
K Factory UFO2 Clutch System
K Factory ST Steel Hinge Pin
The unique items to the G4RS are:
Lightweight Narrow 3mm 7075 Chassis (Width 74mm) - Its shorter but doesnt alter the wheelbase of the G4
All New Short Rear End Design - Replacement bumper to go with the chassis
Front Gear Diff
Carbon Fiber X Plate - Tank doesnt attach to this anymore
Quick Release Carbon Fiber Radio Plate - Tank attaches to radio-tray
The only thing I'm not sure about is the Lightweight Engine Mount. Might be different, not sure.
Andrew
but will see what happens about a change. have one more race this year provided engines make it back in time from VIC.
#8504
Tech Rookie
Why is TM the only company that seems to be coming out with a new car every 3 months makes me wonder if they know what they are doing?
#8505
Everyone that feels they need to comment on my post that's cool. But like I said I am NO marketing pro and don't want to be. So if I am like totally in left field with my thoughts, don't OVER bash me. Because I will hunt you down!
On another note, the G4RS looks pretty sweet. Maybe I will post a pic of my Serpent 720 with the same angles as TM did and we can see any comparisons (or not), along with feeback from you G4+ owners out there so we can disect this car and find out what the new improvments are and why. Doesn't TM usually have a 45 page description of there new stuff anyway? Where is it for this car?? Ok, I'll stop. Sorry for the longwinded post everyone. Later!!!!