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Old 07-10-2004, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: Turnbuckles

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I just completed my MTX-3 Prospec and was wondering what tool you guys use to adjust the turnbuckles.

It's a little bigger than the usual lunsford wrench i normally use. I tried some needle nose but i can't get a good grip on them.

thanks in advance

Go to the hardware store and pick up a set of picks. One has a 90deg bend one is a hook and 1 is a 45deg angle, they cost about $5.00 and you can use them as a castor clip tool also!
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Old 07-10-2004, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Turnbuckles

Originally posted by ProRacer03
I just completed my MTX-3 Prospec and was wondering what tool you guys use to adjust the turnbuckles.

It's a little bigger than the usual lunsford wrench i normally use. I tried some needle nose but i can't get a good grip on them.

thanks in advance
I use a Craftsman 4mm open wrench.
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Old 07-11-2004, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: Re: Turnbuckles

the prospec is different to the original mugen mtx3 it has the titanium turnbuckles which have no holes in the turnbuckles.

you could try drilling a small hole in the turnbuckle or making a wrench yourself with a 90 degree angle on the wrench

TO THE GUY WHO HAS THE CAR THAT SPINS OUT;

you are running too much droop on the rear. ie the car lifts too much under heavy braking, reduce the droop, thereby reducing the weight shift to the front and your problem will be solved. if you are running the car with the right tyres, the tweek taken out etc the droop will be the crucks of your issues.
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: Turnbuckles

Originally posted by ProRacer03
I just completed my MTX-3 Prospec and was wondering what tool you guys use to adjust the turnbuckles.

It's a little bigger than the usual lunsford wrench i normally use. I tried some needle nose but i can't get a good grip on them.

thanks in advance
if u want somethin nice get a tamiya turnbuckle wrench. fits perfectly

Hi guys! just finished building my first mugen car, my prospec mtx3, and i must say the quality is very good and it looks very durable
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:21 AM
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Default Spin on the brakes....

you are running too much droop on the rear. ie the car lifts too much under heavy braking, reduce the droop, thereby reducing the weight shift to the front
Also, the front shock damping rate plays in here......you can thicken-up the front oil to keep RAPID weight transfer from occurring under braking......but you'll still have similar weight transfer when not braking hard.....keeps it turning in good on the off-power corners while not spinning under hard braking.....

If you simply remove droop, you can remove turn-in in non-braking corners also....where you may not have a problem now.
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:03 PM
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Default Clutch tuning for Prospec

I just began the break in stage on my MTX-3 Prospec. I have a problem I think you guys might be able to help with.

When i start the car, the wheels begin to spin, as soon as the wheels stop, the car dies.

So I put the car on the starter box, engine fires up, put the car on the ground it dies. I think the clutch spring might be set too tight but I have it on stock settings with only 2mm spacing on the clutch spring.

My question is, should i tighten the clutch spring down? Do I need to open up the pinion gears in order to do it or can i tighten down the pilot shaft screw?

Thanks in advance, this forum has been a very valuable resource of information.
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Clutch tuning for Prospec

Originally posted by ProRacer03
I just began the break in stage on my MTX-3 Prospec. I have a problem I think you guys might be able to help with.

When i start the car, the wheels begin to spin, as soon as the wheels stop, the car dies.

So I put the car on the starter box, engine fires up, put the car on the ground it dies. I think the clutch spring might be set too tight but I have it on stock settings with only 2mm spacing on the clutch spring.

My question is, should i tighten the clutch spring down? Do I need to open up the pinion gears in order to do it or can i tighten down the pilot shaft screw?

Thanks in advance, this forum has been a very valuable resource of information.
Seems like your clutch bell is engaging with the clutch shoe, you need some space between them so it doesnt engage when idling!
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Old 07-11-2004, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Re: Clutch tuning for Prospec

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Seems like your clutch bell is engaging with the clutch shoe, you need some space between them so it doesnt engage when idling!
How is this done? Should I put in some spacers? Would this require shaving anything down?

Do you have a picture?

What you describe sounds like the reason my car dies out. Just need to find a remedy
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Old 07-11-2004, 06:06 PM
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You need to add more shims behind the clutchbell.
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Old 07-11-2004, 07:15 PM
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Default Engine Mounting...

Getting to the final steps of assembly on the MTX-3. When mounting the engine with a slide carb, I don't have enough clearance on the top tray for the carb to fully open unless I twist the carb about 15%. Is this normal? Should I instead grind the tray to get the clearance?

Thanks!
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Very normal
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Re: Re: Clutch tuning for Prospec

Originally posted by ProRacer03
How is this done? Should I put in some spacers? Would this require shaving anything down?

Do you have a picture?

What you describe sounds like the reason my car dies out. Just need to find a remedy
I think the easiest way is to remove some shims on the thrust bearing side, to give it some more room for the clutch bell to clear the clutch shoe!
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:54 PM
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How is this done? Should I put in some spacers? Would this require shaving anything down?
Just put some shims BEFORE the bearing on the INSIDE of the clutchbell. I had that problema little with the clutch dragging, I wouldn't shut the engine down, but you would tell it was dragging. Good luck
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Old 07-11-2004, 08:58 PM
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Thanks for all your help! I added some shims and that seemed to fix the problem.

It's a good things that the car fired right up. Does anyone run the 5.4 carb restricter on their NS12? I left it in to be on the safe side.

I added the 19/16 conversion and 3Racing aluminum pulleys all around.

Here are some pics of what you guys helped me out with.



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Old 07-11-2004, 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by mckrooz
You need to add more shims behind the clutchbell.
you need to come out to the track more instead of here came across a new pipe from a company called "skyline". seems pretty good, let you try it next week, if you ever came to the track.
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