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Old 06-08-2011, 03:19 PM   #376
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Why does it seem like the r4 has more problems then the rrr had?
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Why does it seem like the r4 has more problems then the rrr had?
They try to make a better car without using parts from RRR... I think.
Some part like transmition sould not have changed. RRR transmition is one of the best touring transmitions.
Everybody grumbling because of the big differential at RRR. Now grumbling because are very small on R4.
Car is in development. hope after the summer have made improvements to make the car better.
Kyosho is a very seriοus company. I think they never release something that would be worst than the older version.
Cars now pass to the next level and need development ... Also need a lot of practice for the serious racers to find what car need to go faster.
Before R4 i race with a Shimo edition RRR. I run with RRR 3 years. This year before release of R4, every race, i made a new track record in my country. (after 3 years of practice.....)
It's to early to compare R4 with RRR or other cars.
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They try to make a better car without using parts
It's to early to compare R4 with RRR or other cars.
i agree 1000%
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Old 06-09-2011, 03:13 AM   #379
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They try to make a better car without using parts from RRR... I think.
Some part like transmition sould not have changed. RRR transmition is one of the best touring transmitions.
Everybody grumbling because of the big differential at RRR. Now grumbling because are very small on R4.
Car is in development. hope after the summer have made improvements to make the car better.
Kyosho is a very seriοus company. I think they never release something that would be worst than the older version.
Cars now pass to the next level and need development ... Also need a lot of practice for the serious racers to find what car need to go faster.
Before R4 i race with a Shimo edition RRR. I run with RRR 3 years. This year before release of R4, every race, i made a new track record in my country. (after 3 years of practice.....)
It's to early to compare R4 with RRR or other cars.
It seems they are using FIAT (italian cars brand) policy , i.e. to use the first users to test their new car. This is very disappointing, especially thinking that launching price of this "prototype" (can I define it so?) is not exactly cheap. Moreover, despite of a high price, you don't have nothing in terms of "optionals" (basic engine support, joints).
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It seems they are using FIAT (italian cars brand) policy , i.e. to use the first users to test their new car. This is very disappointing, especially thinking that launching price of this "prototype" (can I define it so?) is not exactly cheap. Moreover, despite of a high price, you don't have nothing in terms of "optionals" (basic engine support, joints).
What you said is not lying. R4 price is not competitive with other cars. Αlso it seems like they haven't test the car far enough... If you remember from older versions, only "WC" kits came with optionals. Also......only shimo edition RRR came with front differential!!!
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:36 PM   #381
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You can use 100.000 silicone oil at rear diff. I will try 200.000 xray rear... Also you can use 4mm spacer under the rear hubs links...
Its going off power where i mostly need more steering.

Would a thicker diff still help?
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Its going off power where i mostly need more steering.

Would a thicker diff still help?
A thicker rear diff will make your rear end to slide more.You can also make the rear end to slide if you change the toe in 2 degrees.

The car is working stiffer than the old one.
Also do not forget to shim both diffs (front and rear with an extra shim up and down)

In manual is incorrect check the parts page in order to find the shim mm diameter.
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A thicker rear diff will make your rear end to slide more.You can also make the rear end to slide if you change the toe in 2 degrees.

The car is working stiffer than the old one.
Also do not forget to shim both diffs (front and rear with an extra shim up and down)

In manual is incorrect check the parts page in order to find the shim mm diameter.
i hope i'll find a way to a quick comeback to the RRR shimo edition results of 2010 A final year . Nikoskar i'll be back!!!!
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Hey Guys,

What clutch setups have you found that work best?

I have been running the kit settings and have tried more gap but the clutch seems to engage slightly early.

Im already running 1.2mm on the nut.

Should I try a harder spring or keep tightening?
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i hope i'll find a way to a quick comeback to the RRR shimo edition results of 2010 A final year . Nikoskar i'll be back!!!!
Hope so. if not i am here.
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Hey Guys,

What clutch setups have you found that work best?

I have been running the kit settings and have tried more gap but the clutch seems to engage slightly early.

Im already running 1.2mm on the nut.

Should I try a harder spring or keep tightening?
you can actually do either, if you tighten the nut more reduce the gap to .4 , I run the kyosho hard spring .6 gap and start .8 on the nut and adjust from there
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Hey people, so i tried improving off power steering by reducing rear toe in but actually the car felt the same the only difference i felt is that in the sweeper the car was loosing to much grip.

Adjusted the rear toe in as it was and removed the 1mm shim from the front hubs.

Result wowww lots of steering

I was way to much impressed by how much steering i got is it normal? And are you running 1mm shims on all hubs like the manual and stock setup instructs?

Thanks
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By the way I used an Xceed cruze and thinking of trying the Protoform P37n but I wish to hear some feedback from you guys.
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The R4 turns on a dime!!! Hope to see one with a spool up front!!!......
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Sorry for my late answer but I was sleeping: in Italy now is quite nine in the morning.
This is my R4 with the spool adapted from Hudy spare. We are still waiting the spool from Kyosho.
Yes the 50.000 on R4 is like the 20.000 on RRR.
Another modification I've done was the rear offset to be able to use my kyosho tires with -2 offset.
If you like I will show you how.
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