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Old 05-20-2011, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by blackyblackman
Hi!

Did someone use these shims ('Belleville' springs) in a Capricorn LAB-C01 WCE clutch??







http://www.rctek.com/cars/pb/dart/mo...de_clutch.html

If yes, how much shims did i have to use??
10 or 12?
And how much is the pre-load?

I have testet it with 12 shims and a preload of 0,3-0,4, but it works not really good!!

Any suggestion??


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Is there really a need to use disc springs in Capricorn clutches. Aren't disc springs heavier than coil springs? Capricorn clutches are intentionally made as light as possible, and that's one reason why they are better. We already have the best clutches in the RC world, and there are a multitude of coil springs from all manufacturers to choose from. Most; if not all the drivers in the Worlds 2010 final used Capricorn clutches, and I doubt that there were any disc springs in their clutches. But it would be interesting to hear from someone that can enlighten me further on this issue?

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Originally Posted by Chickentrader
Is there really a need to use disc springs in Capricorn clutches. Aren't disc springs heavier than coil springs? Capricorn clutches are intentionally made as light as possible, and that's one reason why they are better. We already have the best clutches in the RC world, and there are a multitude of coil springs from all manufacturers to choose from. Most; if not all the drivers in the Worlds 2010 final used Capricorn clutches, and I doubt that there were any disc springs in their clutches. But it would be interesting to hear from someone that can enlighten me further on this issue?

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I have a set to try, if I find the time I might try it tomorrow.
I already tested it in a Nova Basic N12T1 engine and the results were very good.
You can also alter the stiffness and character of the spring by changing the orientation of the belleville rings.
Like this is the softest: ><><><><
Like this it's harder: >>><<<><

Smaller changes can be made by altering the preload.
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Originally Posted by Joehwee
Hi guys

Can someone tell me what is the difference between the yellow, red and the older green clutch shoes?

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Any update?
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Originally Posted by Joehwee
Any update?
The yellow and green shoes are older versions, currently I would recommend the red shoe anytime as it gives the best performance.
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Originally Posted by DS Motorsport
I have a set to try, if I find the time I might try it tomorrow.
I already tested it in a Nova Basic N12T1 engine and the results were very good.
You can also alter the stiffness and character of the spring by changing the orientation of the belleville rings.
Like this is the softest: ><><><><
Like this it's harder: >>><<<><

Smaller changes can be made by altering the preload.
Hi!

Any Update??
Have you test it last weekend??

I had no time last weekend to practice, perhaps i will test it today..!

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Congrats on your win DJ at the recent Kosmic Gp

can you please post your setup pleasE?

thanks!
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Originally Posted by mrgsr
Congrats on your win DJ at the recent Kosmic Gp

can you please post your setup pleasE?

thanks!
Here you go. The traction was high just so you know. I also used the stock springs and tested the reds, but the stock ones were better. Even thought the track was bumpy the stock springs made the car produce faster lap time. I just had to watch my driving line a little closer and make the track as short as possible.

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Which Ackerman plate is the more Ackerman ?
10 11 or 12?
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+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

is it a video from Auto Paris Show 2011?
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is it a video from Auto Paris Show 2011?
Nooo it's my 1st home made video
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i had a 35 min main and 15 minutes in minutes in my brakes started to fade. Is there a issue with the brake pads , or maby my servo started to fade?
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i had a 35 min main and 15 minutes in minutes in my brakes started to fade. Is there a issue with the brake pads , or maby my servo started to fade?
If pads and disc are brand new, use very fine ( almost dead ) abrasive paper as DJ says.

Also check 2 screws holding pads. Those screws get loose. I used some threadlock to solve the problem.
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Originally Posted by 1nsane
If pads and disc are brand new, use very fine ( almost dead ) abrasive paper as DJ says.

Also check 2 screws holding pads. Those screws get loose. I used some threadlock to solve the problem.
The red Capricorn brake pads don't fade in our experience. We often race on narrow track with tight corners, where fading brakes is common, and we have never had that problem. Try changing your servo. The bolts need threadlock to stay steady when the thread in the bulkhead gets worn in, and the bolts are starting to turn too easy.

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After reading every thread on the hottest touring cars I decided to purchase this car. Please dont flame my for this, but there are not onroad track were im from so we drag race the cars. Its not just parking lot racing we actually use a real timimg (Pro-Tree 400) system for ET and MPH. The distance is 132ft. start to finish. All of my competition runs MTX 3 with .21 motors on them. The surface is untreated so foam tires do not work bc of all the power we are putting down. We use rubber tires.

I will not put a .21 motor on this car unless i absolutely have to. I figured with the light weight components on this car I can get away with running a drag modd TZ .18.

Ok>>That's the snap shot, heres what I need for my application:

What gearing and pulleys should I use? (We tend to gear more to the top side bc of the power of these motors)

Overall total set-up..i.e..Rear tow, camber, caster, shock position,

Whats the best body to run? I ordered the ISF body, but was thinking about the toyota GT one.

Ride height?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks to Sam, the kit should arrive today. I will start building tonight.

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