Originally Posted by MrHistory

No problem this is just a discussion. You guys know much more about this than I do. I just built the car and want to get servos for it. Thats all. Because 1/10 nitro is knew to me I just want to buy something that works well, and dont want to keep buying again. I am also a bit confused about the voltage issue and assumed the KO RSX One10 would be a good solution, unless you all have a specific front and rear combo that might be better.

The JR DS8915 was recommended here but it isn't really available at US Stores. I see the JR Z9100S and JR Z9100T here. Not sure...

Originally Posted by zedrc

Does anyone know if the pulley holders are the same for 1/10 scale car and the 1/8 scale or are the 1/8 scale car pulley holder's bigger? Also does anyone know the outside diameter of the square part of the pulley.....

Thanks

Originally Posted by MrHistory

Can someone tell me how well the KO RSX One10 has been performing in the car? I am looking to get two of these for throttle and steering. If someone has a better idea for front rear combo please let me know. I will get either KO brand or JR to run with my helios radio, and have a LIFE receiver pack. Also hope to avoid using a regulator.

Originally Posted by Chickentrader

You’ve got to listen when the American Champ gives advice; and truly sorry we are only reporting the findings of tests, and of advice given to us. Perhaps it is because conditions are different on the tracks with the high speed sweepers in Australia and in Bangkok, but we only realise now that using the smaller servos has been causing instability in that type of corner and some snap steer in low speed tight corners.

The low profile versus full size testing was made by our team 2000km away in Melbourne before going to the Worlds, who then advised us about the results (the difference was quite startling apparently) when we met up in Bangkok. The earlier advice given to us not to use low profile steering servos was from all the top drivers in Australia. We didn’t want to listen then, we thought our car was so good, and it was only after the problem in Bangkok that we decided to actually test to see for ourselves. Our servo problem in that lower final; with severe understeer where it was needed; and snap steer in the infield was caused by a faulty servo however, and not from its size.

I’m sorry that we all cannot agree on this; and result of the tests are not what we expected or wanted, but I advise anyone that races on tracks with high speed sweepers to actually go and test with both types of servos. We had to before we realised heaps of torque makes such a big difference that lower CG will not compensate for, under our conditions here in Australia. For the record; our car is setup with enough steering to allow it to be turned down to what the driver desires in warm ups, and the servo saver tension was adequate and not changed during testing.

My sincere apologies for stirring this up and causing confusion, but we thought that it would be in the best interest of all to report what we found. Thanks to those that disagree with our findings for the polite debate, and for not shooting me for saying something different.

Kindest regards,
Lars.

Originally Posted by DS Motorsport

It really depends on the brand and type of low-profile servo. There are a lot out there which have been designed for ep cars and simply don't work on gas cars. I wouldn't recommend the Kopropo 2413, or the latest Sanwa low profiles as a steering servo. I've seen both of these fail within a day when used in a nitro car as a steering servo.

I've tested back to back with the RSX One10 and the normal RSX at the start of last season and I preferred the RSX One10.

Originally Posted by Italboy

I saw the new savox 1252 has a lower torque nr than the previous one, 1251.
Might it be a worse choice in general to get savox? I would also prefer a futaba servo, but i really don' have an idea which one from futaba..
Thanks

Originally Posted by DS Motorsport

Well, yes I would say the Savox/Orion servos are the worst choice you could make, Futaba servos are a lot higher quality.

I've got a 4 year old Futaba 9551 low profile which is still going strong. They now make a brushless version of it which should be even better.
Or otherwise the fullsize BLS 451 on steering and the low profile BLS 551 on throttle. One of my friends has this combo in his C02 and his car handles really well.

Originally Posted by G4.Tragic

Bunch of skirts blaming your equipment, eat some concrete and harden up!

Originally Posted by blis

Daan,

While Luke was off socialising at the track the other day I quickly fired the car up and took it out for a drive (which is something he doesnt usually let me do) and I felt that the turn in on the car was swinging from loose to oversteering and seemed inconsistent.

As I rarely drive the car and attempt to setup from feedback and sight only, is this the trait that you are referring to with the savox. I tried to look up some scientific formulas for loads in cornering but it was a little too hard to grasp while my head was buried in painting my older sons car.

We are heading down to race at Lilydale (new fresh yummy surface) at the home of Capricorn Australia and we'll be switching steering servos when we get there. I trust that your distaste for Savox has merit and wish for all to get the best from our cars.

Cheers and Happy New Year to you..

h

Originally Posted by Chickentrader

I suppose it would save money to just "eat some concrete and harden up", the next time a servo is no good. Will try some for breakfast tomorrow, and let you know how it went.

Kindest regards,
Lars.

Originally Posted by G4.Tragic

Yes please do, always wondered what it would be like