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PSI Racing 07-16-2004 09:48 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Titanium screws
 

Originally posted by Pyramid
East..
Yeah East.
Are you saying that they make the Serpent shocks?

Pyramid 07-16-2004 09:56 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Titanium screws
 

Originally posted by PSI Racing
Yeah East.
Are you saying that they make the Serpent shocks?

I believe so, I think Central RC in Japan offering customer with S710E (stand for + east hop ups) which include the shock. Kind of Tmagic G4/V1RR shock with lack of bleeding process (the way I see it on magazine only).

Pyramid 07-16-2004 09:58 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Titanium screws
 

Originally posted by Pyramid
Kind of Tmagic G4/V1RR shock with lack of bleeding process (the way I see it on magazine only).
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now I remember why Mr. Giant runs Yokomo shocks on his. Does it mean it wont perform well using standard shock?:lol: :lol: (j/k)

Pyramid 07-16-2004 10:11 PM

Just received some stuff,

SER 802831 orange set up wheels.. kind of look a bit pale (not bright enough).

SER 2158KHM... can not wait to try

PSI Racing 07-16-2004 11:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Titanium screws
 

Originally posted by Pyramid
I believe so, I think Central RC in Japan offering customer with S710E (stand for + east hop ups) which include the shock. Kind of Tmagic G4/V1RR shock with lack of bleeding process (the way I see it on magazine only).
Oh that's what you meant.
Ok, I understand now.

redsand 07-17-2004 03:02 AM

Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Think of it as your stance. With your feet together you're pretty wobbly, easily push to one side or another, in other words your weight shifts easier. On the contrary, if you spread your stance you are more stable in terms of side to side weight shift ... a lot harder for someone to push you to one side or the other.

Similarly, if your trackwidth is narrow, the weight of the car can shift more/easier from side to side. Conversely for wider track width.

Within limits and depending on your overall set-up ... narrower trackwidth in the front gives a little more steering because the when you initiate a corner you're starting to force the weight of the car to shift from side to side. :)

Careful with the track-width adjustment, if the front is set too narrow (approx. 2mm narrower than rears), the rear will start to swap end with the front at mid and corner exits. Very hard to drive with that setup.

Schrijver99 07-17-2004 10:33 AM


Originally posted by Pyramid
Just received some stuff,

SER 2158KHM... can not wait to try

Looks very sweet.I've mine already, but no time/wheater to try it out.

cyba888 07-18-2004 07:29 AM

Pyramid,

When you use your drag brake does it wear out the brake pads fast, and how about in a 30 minute race?

GoldFinger 07-18-2004 06:41 PM

Re: Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by redsand
Careful with the track-width adjustment, if the front is set too narrow (approx. 2mm narrower than rears), the rear will start to swap end with the front at mid and corner exits. Very hard to drive with that setup.
With preseent JITC track condition, any 710 setup would still traction rolling.
We cure it with smaller rear trackwidth kind of (FR)200 / (RR)198.5 mm , perfect !!

InitialD 07-18-2004 07:23 PM

Re: Re: Re: Titanium screws
 

Originally posted by KevinS
Are those hex, not philips?
They only come in hex. I have not seen any philips. I believe some philips screws at the bottom of the chassis can be replaced by M3 countersunk hex screws, especially around the battery casing area.


Originally posted by KevinS
Do they come in packs of 8 or 10?
They usually come in 8 pieces.


Originally posted by KevinS
Are they available in most lengths as used on the 710?
Yes they are. The longer ones come in pack of 6.


Originally posted by KevinS
Are they available with different heads? (socket, button, flat)
Do they have M4 too?

I have not come across M4 titanium screws. I think that's because electric cars do not use them !:lol:

I have not seen socket type yet. Perhaps they do have. Countersunk and button head types are pretty common.

InitialD 07-18-2004 07:27 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by GoldFinger
With preseent JITC track condition, any 710 setup would still traction rolling.
We cure it with smaller rear trackwidth kind of (FR)200 / (RR)198.5 mm , perfect !!

Have you tried higher front and rear roll centers? It apparently cures any type of traction rolling.

InitialD 07-18-2004 07:28 PM


Originally posted by cyba888
When you use your drag brake does it wear out the brake pads fast, and how about in a 30 minute race?
Don't get it wrong when using drag brakes... The drag brake is only suppose to "function" when you release the throttle and when the servo is in neutral position. Therefore at servo neutral position, the brake pads are rubbing the brake disc.

When you're on throttle, the brake pads are not suppose to rub against the brake pads. To check, roll the car (when the engine is off) on and off throttle. Off throttle, there should be a little drag. How much? That would depend on you. When you're on throttle, the car is suppose to roll free.

Marcos.J 07-18-2004 07:36 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by InitialD
Have you tried higher front and rear roll centers? It apparently cures any type of traction rolling.
this is how i ran my serpent and even with 35 shore tires front and rear ,i still didnt get any traction roll!

GoldFinger 07-18-2004 07:47 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by InitialD
Have you tried higher front and rear roll centers? It apparently cures any type of traction rolling.
HIgher, you meant just like book stock ?
Tracktion is extremely high, even CD3(evo version from LD3) is flipping.

InitialD 07-18-2004 08:16 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Track width
 

Originally posted by GoldFinger
HIgher, you meant just like book stock ?
Higher in the front (zero shims under the front upper arm) and higher rear roll center than stock like UBO/LB, UTI/LT, UTO/LT, UBI/LT and UBO/LT.

I believe when you put the zero shims under the front upper arms, you cannot mount the steering lingkage above the servo saver. You need to mount it like the manual.


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