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Profoxcg 03-24-2004 11:15 AM

ok, so who makes the tyres that are compatible with this car?

I am going to look into some type of spacer also.

while I am typing, ..


I read someone has put CDV in their 710? what does CDV stand for? and what is the benefit of the over that the car has?

I guess it would be that they dont get lost bc they are one piecew with the piece where rims sit?

Marcos.J 03-24-2004 11:26 AM


Originally posted by clmbia45
Looking at the picture, which is not too clear, it appears that you have worn the steering arm by having a bent wheel rub up against it. The green spoked wheel (kit) are 26+,- mm wide; the white disk wheels are 27+,- mm wide. The latter barely clear the steering arms; the spoked ones have about 1 mm clearance. The forum on mytsn mentions that serpent is coming out with new wheels in a month or so--my bet is they have 1 mm ofset. Cut 1 mm off the inside of the disk Ellegis and you will have the same clearance as the spoked ones (still not much).:cool:
i guess im not the only one that cuts their rims down

Marcos.J 03-24-2004 11:29 AM


Originally posted by Profoxcg
ok, so who makes the tyres that are compatible with this car?

I am going to look into some type of spacer also.

while I am typing, ..


I read someone has put CDV in their 710? what does CDV stand for? and what is the benefit of the over that the car has?

I guess it would be that they dont get lost bc they are one piecew with the piece where rims sit?

i beleive that it stands for constant velocity driveshafts "CVD's"

Profoxcg 03-24-2004 11:40 AM


i guess im not the only one that cuts their rims down
What do you mean cut your rims down?

now I am lost.

Derby Bros Racing 03-24-2004 12:05 PM

i cut my fronts to 25mm or 24mm depending on track condition. cutting down leaves more room so you don't have to worry about spacers.

Profoxcg 03-24-2004 12:19 PM

Marcos
 
where you refering to cuttin the actual rim? (is so how) or truing the tyres 1mm ?

sparksy 03-24-2004 01:30 PM


Originally posted by cyba888
Wider is always better correct?
Not always. With all things there are limits. Going too wide will decrease performance.

I trim my fronts (GRP dish) to 26mm. They come 27mm wide from the box. Wack them on a truer and then using a file, grind the inside edge.

cyba888 03-24-2004 05:15 PM


Originally posted by Profoxcg
ok, so who makes the tyres that are compatible with this car?

I am going to look into some type of spacer also.

while I am typing, ..


I read someone has put CDV in their 710? what does CDV stand for? and what is the benefit of the over that the car has?

I guess it would be that they dont get lost bc they are one piecew with the piece where rims sit?

I think CVD's has less friction compared to dogbones.

Derby Bros Racing 03-24-2004 05:26 PM

CVD's have less play; they are generally lighter; they don't fall off; they tranfer power to the wheel more consistently than dogbones (because of less play); but they do require more maintenance than dogbones.

Personally, CVD's are the way to go... I hate dogbones

:)

Profoxcg 03-24-2004 07:04 PM

who makes CDVs for the 710?

clmbia45 03-24-2004 07:11 PM


Originally posted by Profoxcg
who makes CDVs for the 710?
Serpent is coming out with them; I saw the prototype at the Winter Nats. Beautiful!;) :nod:

GoldFinger 03-24-2004 07:15 PM


Originally posted by evlhdlts
CVD's have less play; they are generally lighter; they don't fall off; they tranfer power to the wheel more consistently than dogbones (because of less play); but they do require more maintenance than dogbones.

Personally, CVD's are the way to go... I hate dogbones

:)

Smoother/less friction (when off throttle/freewheeling) .. yes agreed.
Lighter..?? disagree.. coz to make a CVD, the bulletproove one, they need to use some heavy-duty cold process steel. Far as I know, they will not beat the spring steel / heat-treated one in weight terms.
More consistent.. its about same rate.

Just my 2cents

cyba888 03-24-2004 07:17 PM


Originally posted by clmbia45
Serpent is coming out with them; I saw the prototype at the Winter Nats. Beautiful!;) :nod:
What color were the protoype CVD's? What maintenances are needed for CVD's, just lubing?

SupermaxxRich 03-24-2004 07:21 PM

I have a question for the Pro's. Once I get my car running wich should be within the next week or so, just waiting on the weather now as I will probably have my car completed tonight!:nod: :D I'm going to setup the car as the book says. I keep hereing that the 710 has this nasty push or oversteer. If I incounter this problem, what would be the first areas you would adjust to correct this problem?
I'm going to be running on a parking lot that has really smooth ashfault(only a few years old and doesn't see much traffic), it gets blown down before the track gets laid out. But it never gets a traction additive used like VHT. Let me know what you guys think that way the first time I go out there and the car does this pushing thing I won't be standing there with my hands down my pants!:blush: Everybody else there is running the R40 so I want to make a good impression the first time I head out! Everybody at the store is telling me to buy a R40(they don't know I bought the 710 yet:sneaky: )that it handles just as good as the 710 and the 710 is a piece of crap. So I want to go there on the first day and knock there socks off!:lol: Let me know, thanks.

cyba888 03-24-2004 07:38 PM


Originally posted by SupermaxxRich
I have a question for the Pro's. Once I get my car running wich should be within the next week or so, just waiting on the weather now as I will probably have my car completed tonight!:nod: :D I'm going to setup the car as the book says. I keep hereing that the 710 has this nasty push or oversteer. If I incounter this problem, what would be the first areas you would adjust to correct this problem?
I'm going to be running on a parking lot that has really smooth ashfault(only a few years old and doesn't see much traffic), it gets blown down before the track gets laid out. But it never gets a traction additive used like VHT. Let me know what you guys think that way the first time I go out there and the car does this pushing thing I won't be standing there with my hands down my pants!:blush: Everybody else there is running the R40 so I want to make a good impression the first time I head out! Everybody at the store is telling me to buy a R40(they don't know I bought the 710 yet:sneaky: )that it handles just as good as the 710 and the 710 is a piece of crap. So I want to go there on the first day and knock there socks off!:lol: Let me know, thanks.

The setup book has alot of info on the last page in that color coded sheet. It explains what problems you have and tells you what needs to be adjusted. I never really paid attention to it until I read really carefully how it works. Really good piece of information. I wished I had used it earlier in stead of Forrest Gumping it. But like everyone says, one adjustment at a time. If your looking for a PRO's advice then ask Julius. Hes a factory driver for Serpent I believe. :)


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