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InitialD 03-22-2004 11:49 PM


Originally posted by BaxterC
I will be up at 5 on the weekends when my kit arrives to build it, and to get to the track to run it... It will be winter here in a few weeks... VERY COLD... not like england though... only -1 C maybe -2C not colder...
I would think you will not be sleeping when your kit comes ! :lol:

Can you see sun to play in that cold weather? What time does the sun come up?

Diesel Racer 03-23-2004 12:20 AM

710 FAQ
 
The latest revision of markp27's 710FAQ has now been uploaded to my website for easy reference.

http://www.markanddebbie.net

Julius 03-23-2004 12:20 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
Brown shoe? Would that make for more clutch slippage? The brown shoe is harder than the XP stock shoe.

Nope, the brown shoe has less slip than the black shoe.

markp27 03-23-2004 12:21 AM


Originally posted by BaxterC
I will be up at 5 on the weekends when my kit arrives to build it, and to get to the track to run it... It will be winter here in a few weeks... VERY COLD... not like england though... only -1 C maybe -2C not colder...
Come to Germany - common daytime temperatures in Winter are around -10 to -15C :lol:

Julius 03-23-2004 12:24 AM


Originally posted by MrChan
I 'm currently running 200mm with 90 degree front sway bar.

I don't think I should raise up front roll center coz It was not enough steering and I believe I should raise up rear roll center first . I feel I got a lot of rear traction and make my car got traction roll !

I will try out a few things this week end ... I hope my car will not be traction roll until broke thing again !!

Last week, I broke front absorber and rear wishbone because of 2 time of traction roll. My car flew like SpiderMAN to the wall

It depends on when the traction roll happens. If it is entering the corner you may not have enough rear grip. A little softer rear bar or a lower rear roll center will help.

If you roll in the middle of the corner you can use a higher front roll center (lower the pivot points of the front upper arms).

Anyway I saw you used 37 shore tires. Go up at least one step as the tire will then flex less and this helps reduce traction roll.

What body is on the car?

MrChan 03-23-2004 12:36 AM


Originally posted by Julius
It depends on when the traction roll happens. If it is entering the corner you may not have enough rear grip. A little softer rear bar or a lower rear roll center will help.

If you roll in the middle of the corner you can use a higher front roll center (lower the pivot points of the front upper arms).

Anyway I saw you used 37 shore tires. Go up at least one step as the tire will then flex less and this helps reduce traction roll.

What body is on the car?

I was using Alfa 156 and I got traction roll in middle of the corner when I was trying to carry more speed.

I will try 42 and 45 this weekend.

markp27 03-23-2004 12:38 AM

Hey Julius, did KLM put you on an aviation course reacently - I was just wondering because of your new signature :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sow&Steady 03-23-2004 12:42 AM


Originally posted by markp27
Hey Julius, did KLM put you on an aviation course reacently - I was just wondering because of your new signature :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Well, that would almost apply to me too when my car takes off into the air after hitting the kerb! :lol: :lol: :lol:

InitialD 03-23-2004 12:43 AM


Originally posted by Julius
Nope, the brown shoe has less slip than the black shoe.
Perhaps it's a different brown material but if I take the description of the XP clutch shoe (6587XP) from the Centax I / II clutch shoes, it reads like this;

"This black centax clutch shoe is made from a new material that gives you more ‘punch’ on acceleration. Although, due to the nature of the material used on the XP (xtra performance) clutch shoe, you sacrifice longevity, the extra power gained is worth it."

I would interpret that the material used on the XP shoes are softer and hence have more grabbing effect on the clutchbell... But of course, I may be wrong again ! :lol: :cry:

InitialD 03-23-2004 12:46 AM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Well, that would almost apply to me too when my car takes off into the air after hitting the kerb! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Airborne ! Everybody experiences that feeling ! :lol:

Hey, I still owe you a PM and register on that website.;)

BaxterC 03-23-2004 01:08 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
I would think you will not be sleeping when your kit comes ! :lol:

Can you see sun to play in that cold weather? What time does the sun come up?

Well, I dont think I will be sleeping...

In winter the sun comes up at around 6:30-7am and goes down at around 4:30-6pm... so wwe have relatively long days in winter, but it is cold for us... summer the sun is up at around 5am and is up till around 7-7:30pm... longer days but it is hot... ~30C to ~35C

Julius 03-23-2004 01:29 AM


Originally posted by markp27
Hey Julius, did KLM put you on an aviation course reacently - I was just wondering because of your new signature :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I guess KLM thought I'd better not learn the hard way ;)

By the way did you know helicopters can't fly?

They are just so ugly the earth repels them! :D

Julius 03-23-2004 01:30 AM


Originally posted by MrChan
I was using Alfa 156 and I got traction roll in middle of the corner when I was trying to carry more speed.

I will try 42 and 45 this weekend.

In that case running a higher roll center in front and maybe even in the rear will help.

MrChan 03-23-2004 01:32 AM


Originally posted by Julius
In that case running a higher roll center in front and maybe even in the rear will help.
I will try out and post the result here !

markp27 03-23-2004 01:45 AM


Originally posted by Julius
I guess KLM thought I'd better not learn the hard way ;)
AHA! I get it, they've stuck a notice in front of your seat :lol: :lol:


By the way did you know helicopters can't fly?

They are just so ugly the earth repels them! :D

Could that be the problem with my Surikarn when it traction rolls? :lol: :lol:


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