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InitialD 03-22-2004 09:00 PM


Originally posted by MrChan
I have just ran my 710 for 1st time at my local track. The car was quite impressive about performance and gearing.
Mr. Chan, playing with 1/10th TC already?:sneaky: :D

What front and rear trackwidth are you running? Wider front trackwidth to 200 mm. Like some already mentioned, raise the front roll center by putting all the shims (2 mm + 2 mm) just under the CF radio tray, stiffen the front sway bar.

InitialD 03-22-2004 09:02 PM

Re: Re: Re: Initial D
 

Originally posted by Marcos.S710
i wish i was racing , i have to work:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
I feel for you...:( Well, you gotta give some chance to the other guys at your track to get to the podium ! :sneaky: :lol: Else, not so nice if you keep hogging it throught the whole nitro season ! :lol:

Marcos.J 03-22-2004 09:06 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Initial D
 

Originally posted by InitialD
I feel for you...:( Well, you gotta give some chance to the other guys at your track to get to the podium ! :sneaky: :lol: Else, not so nice if you keep hogging it throught the whole nitro season ! :lol:
:nod: http://212.227.253.81/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif

Pyramid 03-22-2004 09:21 PM


Originally posted by B
however, they are cheaper in price

I guess the old saying applies, "you get what you paid for"

I also believe in that.. but funny thing.. those made in Europe/Holland cracked plastic arms mentioned before because of weahter changes... at such that price, how the hell didn`t you put them inside humidity chamber and do strength test after the whole 2 years of research?? I just don`t buy that kind of excuses.

jfc_tech 03-22-2004 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by InitialD
True. I would not get parts like CVDs from them. But from the looks of it, they seemed pretty OK. I got the front upper SSG bumper brace and the titanium 2 speed shaft. The 2 speed shaft seems to hold fine after a weekend of continuous playing.
D, are u talking about this? I already bought one but has not use it yet. :cry: :cry:

InitialD 03-22-2004 10:20 PM


Originally posted by Profoxcg
so what exactly is the ofna X12 pipe for?
I have not seen the Ofna X12 pipe. So I cannot comment.


Originally posted by Profoxcg
is it uncommon to have more than one pipe at the track? /engine
A high speed track usually requires a pipe / engine combo that can give you high revs. A short pipe will do that. A long pipe is good for torque which is good for short twisty tracks.

If you have an engine / pipe combo that is high end biased, gear the car such that it will take advantage of it. This means smaller pinions and bigger spurs. Vice versa if you have an engine / pipe combo that is low end biased. By gearing correctly, you can actually make a torquey engine / pipe combo have the same top speed as a high rev engine. You just need to use smaller spurs and bigger pinions to achieve it.

InitialD 03-22-2004 10:28 PM


Originally posted by jfc_tech
D, are u talking about this? I already bought one but has not use it yet. :cry: :cry:
Yup. That's the one. Let us know how it goes. What I know is that the 3 Racing CVDs for Mugen are very brittle. I hope the 3 Racing ones for the 710 will hold up.

markp27 03-22-2004 10:38 PM


Originally posted by InitialD
Yup. That's the one. Let us know how it goes. What I know is that the 3 Racing CVDs for Mugen are very brittle. I hope the 3 Racing ones for the 710 will hold up.
What's the advantage of CVDs?

InitialD 03-22-2004 10:43 PM

Julius' Ball Diff Article
 
Hey, look at what our bro put up on mytsn...:sneaky:

http://www.mytsn.com/publ/publ.asp?pid=9782

Kudos to him ! :nod: :deathstar

B 03-22-2004 11:03 PM


Originally posted by Pyramid
I also believe in that.. but funny thing.. those made in Europe/Holland cracked plastic arms mentioned before because of weahter changes... at such that price, how the hell didn`t you put them inside humidity chamber and do strength test after the whole 2 years of research?? I just don`t buy that kind of excuses.
haha:lol:
I guess there are exceptions.

Well, seriously, the 3Racing parts are not that good. However, different people have different opinions.

MrChan 03-22-2004 11:04 PM


Originally posted by InitialD
Mr. Chan, playing with 1/10th TC already?:sneaky: :D

What front and rear trackwidth are you running? Wider front trackwidth to 200 mm. Like some already mentioned, raise the front roll center by putting all the shims (2 mm + 2 mm) just under the CF radio tray, stiffen the front sway bar.

I 'm currently running 200mm with 90 degree front sway bar.

I don't think I should raise up front roll center coz It was not enough steering and I believe I should raise up rear roll center first . I feel I got a lot of rear traction and make my car got traction roll !

I will try out a few things this week end ... I hope my car will not be traction roll until broke thing again !!

Last week, I broke front absorber and rear wishbone because of 2 time of traction roll. My car flew like SpiderMAN to the wall

BaxterC 03-22-2004 11:06 PM


Originally posted by redsand
The track looks really nice !! How long is the back straight ?
I am not sure... looks VERY long, they say the track is the longest in South Africa, so I would imagine I would need to gear it, and put on a high speed pipe just so I can keep up :) could be fun though

BaxterC 03-22-2004 11:23 PM


Originally posted by InitialD
Looks good. Track is mostly high speed. Perhaps a solid front axle would be good for this track.
thanks Dee. I am planning on getting the pins but I hope rc-mushroom hurry and get the parts soon.

InitialD 03-22-2004 11:37 PM


Originally posted by MrChan
I don't think I should raise up front roll center coz It was not enough steering and I believe I should raise up rear roll center first . I feel I got a lot of rear traction and make my car got traction roll !
Well, I really need to see the car in action to know what you're describing.

But if you look the other way around, decreasing rear traction by higher rear roll center increases the front traction and you'll have problems again !

Perhaps you can list your current setup and post it here. From there, we can brainstorm and give you our inputs and the changes that need to do. Always remember, change one thing at a time. :D


Originally posted by MrChan
Last week, I broke front absorber and rear wishbone because of 2 time of traction roll. My car flew like SpiderMAN to the wall
Ouch. Good luck on your outing and let us know how it goes.:D

BaxterC 03-22-2004 11:43 PM


Originally posted by markp27
:lol: :lol: I'm awake :D Normally, during the week, I'd have been up nearly an hour by now - I get up really early! and for some reason, only known to my brain, he has decided that 5:30 is a good time to wake up on the weekend!! :flaming: :cry:
I will be up at 5 on the weekends when my kit arrives to build it, and to get to the track to run it... It will be winter here in a few weeks... VERY COLD... not like england though... only -1 C maybe -2C not colder...


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