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Shipment
Originally posted by S710_Nut Julius: I assume the cars are ready to ship shortly with the-border hobbies shipping there tomorrow? It's getting closer.... :) |
Originally posted by jwf_frani initial D sometimes reducing droop will help in overall steering. adding droop vs reducing droop to add steering is not always the case so in some situations you can get a more consistent turn circle with reduced droop because your not unloading the inside wheel too much. Originally posted by jwf_frani with the pit situation I think that depends on how comfortable you are with your pitmans abilities. |
ashford hobby has all the parts and pricing for the 710 upoaded in their pricelist. Robert tells me kits will most likely ship from serpent USA just before Xmas....
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it will be in the shops NEXT WEEK in HK! Just checked with the Asia distrubutor...
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Originally posted by InitialD Yes, I agree. But the inside wheel unloading thing on throttle should not happen with a one way front anyways right? |
Originally posted by Julius If you don't compensate the droop you will most likely get a little less steering on throttle due to the decrease in downward travel. Originally posted by Julius As to your question of changing droop during a final. No way! The time lost in the pits...... :eek: Yeah, I was thinking would it be great if you could drive the car for the whole main and the car's feeling remains the same throughout the whole driving... That would be ideal. |
Originally posted by Julius The wheel does unload, but contrary to a diff the loaded wheel (outside) will still be driven. Where a diff would route all power to the inside, unloaded wheel which will then spin. Perhaps the difference in terminology used... Unload as in slip. A one way will lock in the inner wheel during a turn on power and the other wheel (outer wheel) free wheels regardless of on power or off power. Regardless of the above, how does having less droop in front make for the inside wheel unload (slip) less and hence give a more consistent turn circle? Unload (slip) less because less front droop prevents the front wheels from lifting off the track on power? |
This waiting game is a pain. I want my car already:(
I wanna go Racing! |
Originally posted by InitialD I don't follow you here... Perhaps the difference in terminology used... Unload as in slip. A one way will lock in the inner wheel during a turn on power and the other wheel (outer wheel) free wheels regardless of on power or off power. Regardless of the above, how does having less droop in front make for the inside wheel unload (slip) less and hence give a more consistent turn circle? Unload (slip) less because less front droop prevents the front wheels from lifting off the track on power? Now if you are in a corner and apply power initially the inside wheel will be slowest so it gets powered and the outside won't. But when you turn the inside wheel gets less pressure and will start to slip, at that moment with a one way power will still go to the outside wheel. But with a diff if an inside wheel starts slipping (spinning) all power will go to that wheel (not taking limited slip diffs into account). |
RE: front droop settings.
decreasing front droop should keep the car flat and keep the inside wheels power or force on the pavement and should help with a little more on power steering with a more responsive car. Conditions will alway dictate what droop settings will be so there is no clear answer to how much the droop to run. |
Originally posted by jwf_frani RE: front droop settings. decreasing front droop should keep the car flat and keep the inside wheels power or force on the pavement and should help with a little more on power steering with a more responsive car. Conditions will alway dictate what droop settings will be so there is no clear answer to how much the droop to run. Front downstop effects the on power steering. If you run more front movement you get a little more on power steering (the front wheels stay on the ground longer). But if you go too far the car's response slows down and could get vague out of the corners. I guess the "neutral" front droop setting could be taken as 0 for the 705 and perhaps -3 and below (or +3 and above) droop settings are the excessive (or restrictive) droop ends to avoid as it has adverse effects on steering? |
Serpent 710 Availability
Originally posted by S710_Nut This waiting game is a pain. I want my car already:( I wanna go Racing! I just got this info from my Italian buddy but you might want to email him first to reconfirm.. If so, he is the first one I know who has them in stock. http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/home.php |
Ohh thanks God, at least Serpent did heard our prayers!!,, I don't now you guys but I see a considering drop of prices in replacement parts for the S710, so why stick with our beloved's 705, when we have now a cheaper and better machine to kick some a$$es!!,, :sneaky: :sneaky:
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Any ideas why the 710 has a high internal drive ratio? Doesnt seem to be geared for smaller tracks.
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Originally posted by CraigH Any ideas why the 710 has a high internal drive ratio? Doesnt seem to be geared for smaller tracks. In short the ratio internally is high but the ratio from clutch to 2 speed is lower than others. Thus final ratio is usable from small to large tracks. |
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